Oct 15, 2024 City Council Work Session

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READY? GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY. TODAY IS TUESDAY, OCTOBER 15TH. YEAR 2024. WE'RE IN COUNCIL

[CALL TO ORDER]

[PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS]

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MOLLY BROWN. MY ADDRESS IS 8908 TROLLEY TRAIL MCKINNEY.

REGARDING WORK SESSION ITEM 24 DASH 2091. I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REGARDING PARKING MINIMUMS. THIS FORWARD THINKING AMENDMENT WOULD REDUCE THE BURDEN ON OUR CITY AND DEVELOPERS FROM TWO SPACES FOR MULTI-FAMILY DWELLING, DOWN TO 1.75 SPACES. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT IT SHOULD BE OUR GOAL TO REDUCE THAT NUMBER EVEN FURTHER IN THE FUTURE, IF POSSIBLE. PARKING REQUIREMENTS REDUCE THE CITY'S ABILITY TO NOT ONLY BUILD BEAUTIFUL SPACES FOR THE FUTURE, BUT ALSO TO BUILD ADAPTIVELY FOR THAT FUTURE.

PARKING MINIMUMS RESULT IN MORE PARKING THAN WE ACTUALLY NEED. HINDERED DEVELOPERS AND RESULT IN DEAD ZONES OF WASTED SPACE. THEY REPRESENT A TAX ON THE LAND THAT FUTURE GENERATIONS MUST PAY FOR, WITH LITTLE IN THE WAY OF ACTUAL BENEFIT. YOU CANNOT LIVE, WORK, OR PLAY ON A PARKING SPAC.

EXCESS PARKING ALSO HAS IMPLICATIONS FOR HOUSING AVAILABILITY AND AFFORDABILITY.

IT IS WELL ESTABLISHED THAT DEVELOPERS WHO BUILD PARKING PASS THAT COST ON TO TENANTS. AN ANALYSIS BY SETH GOODMAN AT REINVENTING PARKING FOUND IN 2015 THAT A SINGLE PARKING SPACE ADDS AN ESTIMATED AVERAGE OF $225 PER MONTH TO RENT. AND THAT WAS IN 2015. IMAGINE HOW MUCH GREATER THE COST IS TODAY. THIS REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT RENTAL BURDEN TO RESIDENTS OF MCKINNEY WHEN WE ARE, FRANKLY, FACING AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS IN 2021, ROOT POLICY RESEARCH FOUND ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF MCKINNEY, THAT 15% OF MCKINNEY RENTERS MAKE LESS THAN $25,000 PER YEAR. BY COMPARISON, ONLY 6% OF HOMEOWNERS MADE $25,000 OR LESS PER YEAR. SIMPLY PUT, UNNECESSARY PARKING, PARTICULARLY EXCESS MULTI-FAMILY PARKING, WHICH DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTS THOSE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE MOST LIKELY TO FEEL THE LOSS OF AN EXTRA 200 OR $300 PER MONTH. GIVEN THAT MANY OF THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ALSO QUALIFY FOR TRANSPORTATION ASSISTANCE THROUGH MUD, THEY ARE EFFECTIVELY PAYING MORE FOR RENT FOR A PARKING SPACE THEY MAY NOT EVEN USE. AS LONG AS WE ARE CAR DEPENDENT AND LACK PUBLIC TRANSIT INFRASTRUCTURE, AS A CITY, WE WILL UNFORTUNATELY NEED PARKING. HOWEVER, THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. PLEASE HELP KEEP OUR CITY UNIQUE BY NATURE AND ADOPT THIS AMENDMENT TO REDUCE MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS. THANK YOU. MOLLY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. THAT IS ALL THAT SIGNED UP. I WANT TO BEFORE WE START THE MEETING, I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW SORRY WE ARE FOR HOW OUR HEARTS GO OUT TO THE THOMAS FAMILY. WE LOST BOB THOMAS. IF YOU DON'T KNOW BOB THOMAS, THAT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE. BOB WAS A TREMENDOUS MAN IN THIS COMMUNITY. A VERY PHILANTHROPIC MAN. MANY KNOW HIM, OF COURSE.

THE BOB THOMAS AUTO GROUP. BUT BOB WAS FAR MORE THAN A AUTO DEALER. BUSINESSMAN. HE WAS A ROTARIAN. HE WAS ON MEDC. HE HAS SERVED IN SO MANY DIFFERENT CAPACITIES. HIS NAME, HIS COMPANY NAME, WAS ADORNED AT JUST ABOUT EVERY CHARITABLE EVENT YOU COULD POSSIBLY IMAGINE. BOB WAS THE KIND OF MAN THAT NEVER SAID NO. IF THERE WAS A NEED, AND WE LOST HIM THIS WEEKEND. THERE'S A MEMORIAL SERVICE TOMORROW AT FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH AT 2:00. FOR THOSE WHO HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO AND SHOW SUPPORT FOR THE FAMILY AND HONOR A TRUE, TRUE, GREAT PATRIARCH OF THIS COMMUNITY, SO WITH THAT, DISCUSS REGULAR MEETING AGENDA ITEMS. IS THERE ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH STAFF PRESENT? IF NOT,

[Presentation on the Technical Rescue Program - Response Capabilities]

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BUT THE WORK THAT THEY PUT INTO THIS AND SOME OF THE GENTLEMAN IN THE BACK AS WELL, IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE A SERVICE THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO PROVIDE BEFORE TO THE CITIZENS OF MCKINNEY, AND THE WAY THAT OUR FIREFIGHTERS LOOK AT IT AS THESE TYPES OF INCIDENTS, WHEN THEY HAPPEN IN OUR CITY, THOSE ARE OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. THOSE ARE OUR FAMILIES, THOSE ARE OUR FRIENDS. THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE. WE DO NOT WANT OTHER RESOURCES AND OTHER AGENCIES COMING IN TO RESPOND IN OUR CITY FOR THOSE RESPONSES.

THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU, CAPTAIN COSTIN.

HE'S GOING TO EXPLAIN THE TECHNICAL RESCUE PROGRAM. MISTER MAYOR COUNCIL, MY NAME IS THOMAS COSTIN. I'M A CAPTAIN AT CENTRAL FIRE STATION AND ONE OF THREE CAPTAINS OF THE TECHNICAL RESCUE PROGRAM. I'M GOING TO TRY TO MAKE THIS QUICK AND NOT TOO GRANULAR FOR EACH OF YOU AND EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM. TYPICAL OF MY FIREFIGHTER FRIENDS WHO SIT ALL THE WAY IN THE BACK ROW.

THAT'S A NORMAL FIREFIGHTER THING. SO IF YOU'RE WONDERING WHY WE DO THAT, IT'S NORMAL.

WE'RE GOING TO DEFINE TECHNICAL RESCUE. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF HISTORY OF WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR TECHNICAL RESCUE IN THE MCKINNEY FIRE DEPARTMENT, TALK ABOUT OUR CURRENT RESPONSE CAPABILITIES AND THEN GIVE YOU SOME DIRECTION AND SOME FUTURE FOR OUR PROGRAM. SO I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH SOME PICTURES. IT'S A SERIES OF SLIDES OF PICTURES THAT ARE FROM MY PERSONAL PHONE OVER THE LAST CALENDAR YEAR. AND THESE ARE ALL TAKEN INSIDE THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. I LIVE IN MCKINNEY, SO SOME OF THESE I'M DOING MY OWN PERSONAL ERRANDS, AND SOME OF THESE I'M ON A FIRE TRUCK AND I WANT TO EXPLAIN THE RISK PROFIL. SO AS WE LOOK ACROSS OUR CITY AND I KNOW YOU GUYS KNOW PROBABLY BETTER THAN ANYBODY, JUST THE AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE WORK AND GROWTH THAT IS OCCURRING IN OUR CITY. SO THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT HERE IS A TRENCH THAT OCCURRED AT THE STONEBRIDGE RANCH COUNTRY CLUB. THEY'RE DOING SOME INFRASTRUCTURE WORK THAT HAS LEFT WALL COLLAPSE AND PINNED ONE OF THE ONE OF THE WORKERS IN THE TRENCH. THE MIDDLE PICTURE IS TAKEN. THIS IS A WATER DISTRIBUTION WORKER. THEY'VE CUT A TRENCH ABOUT AS WIDE AS THE WIDTH OF A BUCKET. AND HE'S DOWN THERE TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING WITH NO SHORING IN THE WALL. THE PICTURE ON THE FAR RIGHT IS A VERTICAL SHAFT THAT GOES DOWN INTO A TUNNEL THAT IS DUG UNDERNEATH THE ELM FORK OF THE TRINITY RIVER, SO THAT WE CAN GET WATER FROM THE NEW LAKE INTO MCKINNEY AND INTO THE PUMP STATION. WE HAD AN INCIDENT IN THE BOTTOM OF THAT PARTICULAR VERTICAL SHAFT RIGHT AFTER THEY COMPLETED IT ON THE FAR LEFT HERE. THIS IS THE TOP OF A CRANE. SO THIS IS A CONSTRUCTION CRANE THAT WAS AT RAYTHEON. THIS IS ACTUALLY A TRAINING EXERCISE THAT WE PUT ON IN THAT CRANE, BECAUSE WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING TO GET SOMEONE FROM THE TOP OF THE CRANE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE CRANE. THE MIDDLE PICTURE IS ANOTHER TRAINING EVOLUTION. THAT'S A CONCRETE TRUCK THAT'S ROLLED OVER ON TOP OF A PASSENGER VEHICLE. CONCRETE TRUCK FULL OF CONCRETE IS REALLY QUITE HEAVY. THOSE AREN'T THE SORT OF THINGS YOU JUST GRAB AHOLD OF AND PICK UP AND THE FAR RIGHT IS AN INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED ON HIGHWAY 75. THAT'S THE BACK OF A PICKUP TRUCK THAT ENDED UP UNDERNEATH A TANDEM TRAILER OF A OF A HEAVY VEHICLE, A BOX TRUCK RUNNING DOWN 75. AGAIN, NOT GENERALLY SOMETHING YOU WOULD JUST RUN INTO EVERY DAY. BUT WE DO HAVE TO GET THAT TRUCK THE BOX UP SO WE CAN REMOVE THE PICKUP FROM UNDERNEATH IT. ON THE FAR LEFT THERE. THIS IS A PICTURE THAT WAS TAKEN NOT TOO LONG AGO. WE HAD AN INCIDENT HERE THE NIGHT BEFORE THIS PHOTOGRAPH WAS TAKEN, AND WE ENDED UP WITH A DODGE RAM ON THE FRONT PORCH OF THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE, AND IT SHIFTED A FEW PARTS OF THE ACTUAL BUILDING ITSELF. SO ONCE THE TRUCK WAS REMOVED, WE CAME BACK AND WE SHORED THAT FRONT PORCH OF THAT HOME UP. IF WE HADN'T DONE THAT, THAT FRONT PORCH WOULD HAVE FALLEN OFF. THE MIDDLE PICTURE WAS ACTUALLY TAKEN ON MY LAST TOUR AT WORK.

WE HAD A MEDICAL CALL THAT CAME IN, AND IT'S HARD TO SEE WHEN THOSE ARE REFLECTIVE VESTS.

THOSE ARE AT THE BOTTOM OF A 30 FOOT SHAFT UNDERGROUND. THAT'S GOING TO BECOME A SEWER LINE THAT CONNECTS THE NORTH END OF TOWN INTO THE PUMP STATION ON AIRPORT DRIVE. THOSE ARE WORKERS THAT ARE DOWN THERE. THEY'RE PUTTING IN A NEW INFRASTRUCTURE PIECE. WE HAD A MEDICAL CALL.

ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WAS IN THERE STARTED HAVING DIFFICULTY BREATHING. WHEN THEY HAVE DIFFICULTY BREATHING, SOMEONE'S GOT TO GO DOWN THERE AND GET THAT PERSON AND BRING THEM BACK OUT AGAIN. AND TO THE RIGHT HERE. THIS IS A TYPICAL THING THAT OCCURS FOR US IN A FEW PARTS OF TOWN. EVERY TIME IT RAINS REAL HARD, THE ROADS FLOOD. EVEN THOUGH THERE'S LOTS OF GREAT COMMUNICATION OUTWARD FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE STATE AND FEMA ABOUT TURN AROUND, DON'T DROWN. WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT MANAGE TO DRIVE THEIR CARS INTO MOVING WATER AND HIGH WATER EVERY YEAR. THIS IS A PICTURE THAT WAS TAKEN RESCUING TWO PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR VEHICLE ABOUT A YEAR AGO. SO THE INCREASED FREQUENCY AND PROBABILITY AND COMPLEXITY OF THESE ISSUES CONTINUES TO HAPPEN. THIS IS ANOTHER VERTICAL SHAFT. THIS IS A MANHOLE. WE HAD A WORKER DOWN THERE THAT WAS DOING SOME NONDESTRUCTIVE TESTING OF A SEWER LINE OVERCOME BY GAS, FELL, SLIPPED AND BROKE HIS LEG. HE HAS TO COME OUT. AND THIS IS AT RIDGE AND WILMOTH.

THIS IS A LARGE OPEN TRENCH AND THIS IS AN EXCAVATOR. THE OPERATOR OF THE EXCAVATOR MANAGED TO FLIP THE EXCAVATOR OVER. LUCKILY HE DIDN'T GET PINNED IN THE CAB AND JUST HURT HIS FINGER OF ALL THINGS. AND HE CAME OUT. THE REASON I SHOW YOU ALL THESE DIFFERENT RISK PROFILES IS TO GIVE YOU SOME INDICATION AS TO WHAT WE SEE LOOKING FORWARD, AS CHIEF DOW SAID, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS. WE DON'T WANT TO SHOW UP AND GO, LET'S

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THERE'S NO REASON THAT ALL THOSE SCENES YOU SAW OF HOUSES FLOATING DOWN RIVERS, THAT IF THAT STORM TRACK SHIFTS OVER, WE MAY NOT HAVE THE SAME EXACT LOOKING PROBLEM, BUT WE HAVE A SIMILAR PROBLEM. A LOT OF WATER AND NOWHERE FOR IT TO GO. THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE ALWAYS CONCERNED WITH HERE IN NORTH TEXAS, TORNADOES AND STRONG STORMS, WE'RE ALWAYS CONSIDERING TERRORISM AS A POTENTIAL PROBLEM. AN ATTACK ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THEN WE HAVE A LOT OF GROWTH. WE HAVE AIRPORTS COMING OR AN AIRPORT COMING, GROWING AND GROWING EVERY DAY. AND THEN WE HAVE AN INCREASE IN POPULATION AND DENSITY. THAT'S PALPABLE IN OUR TOWN ALL THE TIME. SO WHAT IS TECHNICAL RESCUE? I WAS JUST GIVING YOU A BUNCH OF EXAMPLES OF THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN. BUT WHAT ARE THEY REALLY? IT'S JUST A MEDICAL EMERGENCY OR A TRAUMATIC INJURY. IT'S A HUMAN BEING OR AN ANIMAL THAT'S STUCK AND HAS A PROBLEM. AND IT'S COMPLICATED. ON HOW TO GET TO THEM OR HOW TO REMOVE THEM. THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF TECHNICAL RESCUE FOR US. WE BREAK THAT INTO A COUPLE OF THINGS ROPE RESCUE, SWIFT OR FLOOD WATER, CONFINED SPACE, TRENCH, ANY SORT OF STRUCTURAL COLLAPSE, AND THEN A HEAVY VEHICLE EXTRICATION. SO IF THIS FELLA RIGHT HERE ENDS UP HAVING A MEDICAL EMERGENCY, SOMEBODY HAS TO GO GET HIM. THAT'S A TECHNICAL RESCUE. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR HISTORY. THIS IS A PICTURE THAT'S AVAILABLE IN OUR MUSEUM. YOU GUYS COME BY AND TAKE A LOOK AT THIS ONE. AT ANY POINT IN THE 70S, ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE 90S, WE DID A LOT OF RESPONSE ON THE LAKE, ON LAKE LAVON. SO WE DID SURFACE WATER RESCUES, MISSING PERSON RESCUES. AND IN THIS PARTICULAR PICTURE, WE'RE DRAGGING THE BOTTOM OF THE LAKE FOR SOMETHING. THE 90S, WE STOPPED RESPONDING TO THE LAKE.

THE COUNTY TOOK IT OVER. AND THEN IN 2003, RIGHT AFTER, ACTUALLY, I GOT HIRED, WE STARTED DOING A LOT OF ROPE RESCUE WORK. SO WE WENT TO A LOT OF CLASSES. AND FROM 2003 TO 2013, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AS A DEPARTMENT TRAINING OURSELVES. ROPE RESCUE, CONFINED SPACE, SWIFTWATER. WE SENT SOME GUYS DOWN TO NEW BRAUNFELS. I LEFT THOSE PICTURES OUT OF HERE BECAUSE WE'RE ALL IN WETSUITS AND THEY'RE NOT TERRIBLY FLATTERING. AND WE DID SOME ADVANCED VEHICLE EXTRICATION WITH A TRAINING CHIEF THAT WE HAD HERE AT THE TIME THAT TAUGHT US A LOT ABOUT HOW TO DEAL WITH THESE VEHICLE PROBLEMS. MORE RECENTLY, FROM 2013 TO 2022, WE STARTED HAVING LIKE IN MOST, MOST PLACES OF WHAT WE DEAL WITH. WE HAD A TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCED, THINGS JUST STARTED IMPROVING. SO WE END UP WITH ALL THIS NEW GEAR AND ALL THESE NEW OPPORTUNITIES AND CAPABILITIES. WE INCREASED OUR TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH A LOT OF OUR OUTSIDE VENDORS, AND THAT TAKES US THROUGH 22. FROM 22 UNTIL NOW, WE HAVE HAD TO GET A LITTLE BIT CREATIVE WITH HOW WE ACQUIRE EQUIPMENT. WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET SOME OF THESE ITEMS PUT INTO A LINE ITEM ON OUR BUDGET. SO WE'VE GONE OUT AND WE'VE DONE A LOT OF GRANT WORK. WE'VE UAC, WHICH IS A LOCAL GRANT COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS REGIONAL GRANT, HAS FUNDED MOST OF THESE. THESE WERE ALL SUCCESSFUL GRANTS THAT WE WROTE A CONFINED SPACE RESCUE EQUIPMENT ENHANCEMENT. WE HAVE NOW FULL CAPABILITIES OF PROVIDING ALL ALL FORMS OF CONFINED SPACE RESCUE, SWIFT AND FLOOD WATER RESCUE. WE HAVE BOATS THAT RESCUE BOAT PROJECT AND THEN AN ENHANCEMENT OF OUR TEAM CAPABILITIES FOR SEARCH AND RESCUE IN ALL THINGS WATER.

WE'VE ALSO BEEN CHASING ANOTHER GRANT OPPORTUNITY THROUGH THE AFG AND THROUGH FEMA. THAT'S FOR AN ACTUAL RESCUE TRUCK. WE HAVE A LOT OF EQUIPMENT. IT'S HARD TO FIND PLACES TO PUT ALL THAT EQUIPMENT ON FIRE TRUCKS THAT ARE SERVING THE OTHER CAPACITIES OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, SO WE'VE REQUESTED THE AFG GRANT FOR FOUR YEARS IN A ROW. THE AFG GRANT IS AN 8020 SPLIT WITH FEMA AND THE MUNICIPALITY. YOU GUYS MAY REMEMBER AT SOME POINT THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED TO. WE HAVE TO HAVE YOUR APPROVAL TO CHASE THAT GRANT. WE CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT YOUR APPROVAL.

WE'VE SUBMITTED FOR THE GRANT FOUR YEARS IN A ROW. UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE BEEN DENIED FOUR YEARS IN A ROW. THE OTHER ISSUE WITH GRANT FUNDING IS THAT IT'S FAIRLY UNRELIABLE AND INCONSISTENT, NOT INCONSISTENT IN THE FACT THAT THERE'S FUNDS AVAILABLE, BUT INCONSISTENT IN HOW THEY'RE AWARDED. WE CAN'T RELY ON THOSE THINGS BECAUSE THEY'RE THE NEXT MUNICIPALITY OVER, MIGHT DO A BETTER JOB WRITING THE GRANT THAT YEAR THAN THAN WE DO. RESCUE APPARATUS. SO WE HAVE ALL THE EQUIPMENT. WE'VE HAD SOME EQUIPMENT FOR QUITE A WHILE. IN 2007, WHEN CENTRAL STATION OPENED. THAT'S THE STATION RIGHT HERE BEHIND US. IT WAS A DOUBLE COMPANY STATION.

TRUCK ONE WAS A DEDICATED TRUCK COMPANY. THAT PARTICULAR APPARATUS HAD NO PUMP ON IT, SO

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CENTRAL STATION APPARATUS CHANGED IN 2010, AND WE BASICALLY HAD TO SPREAD OUR RESCUE EQUIPMENT ACROSS THE CIT. MOST OF THE TECHNICAL RESCUE GEAR WAS SPLIT BETWEEN TWO LOCATIONS, AND THAT CAUSED A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM FOR US, LARGELY THAT WE HAD SORT OF DILUTION OF EQUIPMENT, DILUTION OF TRAINING. AND THEN WE STARTED HAVING INCONSISTENCIES BECAUSE IT WAS SPREAD ACROSS TOWN AND IT STARTED TO CAUSE SOME TRAINING ISSUES FOR US. WE NOW HAVE, THANKFULLY, A CURRENT APPARATUS DEDICATED AS A RESCUE TRUCK. SO IT'S A 2006 REPURPOSED ENGINE.

IT WAS A PUMPER ORIGINALLY THE PUMP PUMP ON THIS PARTICULAR TRUCK NO LONGER WORKS. IT JUST OCCUPIES THE MIDSHIP COMPONENT OF THE RIG. IT'S AN OLDER APPARATUS. IT WASN'T DESIGNED AS A RESCUE, BUT WE'VE MADE A FEW MODIFICATIONS AND WE'RE MAKING IT WORK AND WE ARE INCREDIBLY THANKFUL TO HAVE A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WHERE WE CAN PUT ALL OF OUR RESCUE EQUIPMENT.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S NOT GOING TO MEET OUR LONG TERM NEEDS. IT'S WORKING RIGHT NOW. BUT AS THIS PROGRAM GROWS, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF SPACE FAIRLY QUICKLY. OUR CURRENT CAPABILITIES WITH THAT TRUCK AND THE CURRENT STAFFING. SO WE HAVE A DEDICATED FOUR PERSON STAFFING AT CENTRAL STATION. THOSE FOUR PEOPLE ARE TECHNICAL RESCUE EMPLOYEES. EACH RESCUER HAS THEIR OWN PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT. EACH RESCUER HAS SPECIALIZED TRAINING, AND THEY'VE ALL PROVEN THEIR SKILL SET. EVEN JAVIER HERE HAS MANAGED TO PROVE THAT HE'S A GREAT PATIENT.

FIREFIGHTERS PROVIDE ALL THE NORMAL FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONSES. WE'RE ALSO JUST IN ADDITION TO THOSE NORMAL FIRE DEPARTMENT DUTIES. WE'RE ALL TECHNICAL RESCUE CERTIFIED. ALS, I WISH JAVIER WAS HERE. CURRENTLY WE CAN DO ROPE RESCUE AND ROPE ACCESS OF ALL FORMS, CONFINED SPACE RESCUE OF ALL FORMS, ALL FORMS OF WATER RELATED RESCUE EXCEPT FOR DIVE.

WE DON'T GO BELOW THE SURFACE OF THE WATER. WELL, WE TRY REALLY HARD NOT TO GO BELOW THE SURFACE OF THE WATER. TRENCH RESCUE. WE CAN DO STRUCTURAL COLLAPSE AND STRUCTURAL SHORING. WE HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR HEAVY VEHICLE AND MACHINERY RESCUE. WE CAN DO WIDE AREA SEARCH AND ALL OF OUR RESCUE EMPLOYEES, ALL OF OUR RESCUE MEMBERS ARE REQUIRED TO DO MONTHLY TRAINING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THESE REQUIREMENTS, AND WE'RE PROVING SKILL SET INTERNALLY. WE PROVE OUR OWN SKILL SET. SO WHAT'S THE DIRECTION OF THE FUTURE? WELL, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE BEST QUALITY SERVICE TO OUR CITIZENS AS WE CAN, USING TECHNICAL RESCUE TO AUGMENT THE SERVICE THAT WE'RE ALREADY PROVIDING. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THESE RESCUE SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY WITHOUT A TOTAL RELIANCE ON OUTSIDE AGENCIES. PREVIOUSLY, WE HAVE HAD TOTAL RELIANCE ON OUTSIDE AGENCIES TO BRING IN SOME PORTIONS OF TECHNICAL RESCUE. WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO IMPROVE OUR SKILL SET THROUGH CONTINUOUS TRAINING. WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME JOINT TRAINING WITH OTHER AGENCIES, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THIS PROGRAM AS A WHOLE. WE'RE GOING TO WORK REALLY HARD ON THE ACQUISITION OF A DEDICATED RESCUE TRUCK, ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY DESIGNED FOR RESCUE WITH OUR BOATS AND OUR WATER PROGRAM, WE'RE GOING TO CHASE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE STATE WATER PROGRAM THROUGH TEXAS TASK FORCE ONE. THAT'S A DEPLOYMENT MODEL. THAT'S UTILIZED ACROSS THE ENTIRE STATE. MANY DEPARTMENTS IN THE AREA PARTICIPATE IN THIS, AND THE GUIDANCE THAT WE'RE USING TO SORT OF BUILD OUR PROGRAM AND BUILD THE SKILL SET IS A IS GENERALLY GEARED TOWARDS A REGIONAL URBAN SEARCH AND RESCUE TEAM. THAT'S SORT OF THE GUIDANCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO US.

SO TO SUMMARIZE THIS PARTICULAR PRESENTATION, I WANT TO INVITE ALL OF YOU GUYS, EVERYBODY TO COME TO CENTRAL STATION ON THURSDAY. WE'LL DO A STATIC DISPLAY OF SEVERAL OF RESCUE SCENARIOS. WE'RE GOING TO PUT EVERYTHING UP FOR YOU RIGHT THERE AT THE STATION. WE CAN REVIEW THE APPARATUS AND YOU CAN COME MEET YOUR RESCUE TEAM. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHAT TIME IS THAT? THURSDAY, 3:00. AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. IMPRESSIVE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ITEM TWO FOR

[Presentation on Sculpture Installation at the East Louisiana Street Roundabout]

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL ANDREW JONES, DIRECTOR OF THE CULTURAL DISTRICT. I HAVE A PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE ALI FROM ALI DESIGNS. SHE'S A LOCAL ARTIST, MEMBER OF THE MILL HOUS, AND WE HAVE A REALLY COOL PRESENTATION TO SHOW TO YOU TODAY REGARDING THE ROUNDABOUT SCULPTURE OVER BY TUBBS. IF YOU KNOW WHERE THAT IS ON LOUISIANA, JUST SOME BACKGROUND. WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK, MANY MONTHS OF REACHING OUT TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND WE HAVE THE BUY IN FROM A LOT OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AROUND THE AREA AS WELL. BUT I'LL TEE IT UP AND LET ALI KIND OF TALK AWESOME. HELLO. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I WAS TELLING HIM I AM VERY EXCITED TO CHECK THIS OFF MY BUCKET LIST OF MY FIRST EVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING. MY NAME IS ALI KAY. I AM A LOCAL ARTIST IN THE DFW AREA. I HAVE GROWN MY BUSINESS FROM THE TEN YEARS OF STARTING

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IT WAS MY FIRST EVER, BUT THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE SCULPTURE WILL LOOK LIKE. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD AN EXTRA SET OF BOUNDARIES. IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO THAT ROUNDABOUT, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S THE ROUNDABOUT CENTER, AND THEN THERE IS THE KIND OF BUFFER FOR 18 WHEELERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A

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WE DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE STONEHENGE. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE ORGANIC WITHIN THE LANDSCAPING. SO IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM THE SCULPTURE ART PIECE. THIS IS THE PROPOSED BUDGET. THIS IS ALL IN FROM THE STRUCTURE ENGINEERING TO THE FABRICATION TO CONCRETE AND TO LANDSCAPING. THESE ARE ALSO THE DELIVERABLES WE HAVE THE 3D MODELING, THE FABRICATION.

AGAIN, THE STRUCTURE AND INJURY PLANS ARE ALREADY PROPOSED AND TOGETHER I HAVE COPIES IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM. AS WELL AS LANDSCAPING, MAKING SURE THAT IT IS NATIVE TO TEXAS. IT'S NOT HIGH MAINTENANCE BY ANY MEANS. AND AS WELL AS MARKETING, THIS IS AGAIN A HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR ME AND FOR THE CITY. SO I AM ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT LIKE TO CELEBRATE ALL OF THE THINGS SMALL OR BIG. SO I PROPOSING MAYBE RIBBON CUTTINGS OR DEFINITELY A LOT OF CONTENT AROUND THE PLANNING, THE BUILDING AND THE INSTALLING HERE IS I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A VIDEO, BUT IT MIGHT NOT WORK. THAT'S RIGHT. I'M OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS. I LOVE YOUR STORY. I LOVE THE WORK YOU DO AND HOW YOU'RE STEPPING OUT FOR THIS WITH SUCH EXCITEMENT AND PASSION. IT'S GREAT AND I LOVE YOUR EVER LEARNING, EVER BLOOMING, EVER GRATEFUL. YES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. WHO'S THAT GENTLEMAN STANDING NEXT TO YOU? HE'S MY BACKUP IN CASE I NEED IT. SUPPORT STAFF? YEAH. QUESTIONS? IT'S A GREAT JOB. AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. YEAH. WE'RE WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. SAME. THANK YOU. 242089

[Consider/Discuss a Request for the use of a portion of the Gray Branch Parkland for a Community Farm]

HERE ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK. I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THESE. THEY WERE IN YOUR PACKET, BUT I WILL PICK OUT A FEW. IS THIS A BONA FIDE PUBLIC RECREATION USE THAT WILL SERVE THE GREATER OF THE GOOD? IS THIS PROJECT SCALABLE? IS THIS A BUT FOR PROJECT? IS THIS A PRIMARY USER DEVELOPER, PRIVATELY OWNED? WHO STANDS TO BENEFIT FROM THE PROJECT? AND THEN ARE THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PARCEL. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK OURSELVES WHEN WE DETERMINE THE APPROPRIATE USES OF PUBLIC PARKLAND AND CITY OWNED PROPERTY. SO WITH THAT, I WILL GO INTO THE USES OF PARKLAND FOR FARM AND SUPPORTING USES OF GREG AND BRANCH PARK. QUICK HISTORY. WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 1212 ACRES PURCHASED IN THREE TRANSACTIONS, TOTALING 7.4 MILLION, AND THE FIRST WAS IN 2019 WITH 100 ACRES AT 2.6 MILLION. IN 2013, WE ACQUIRED 50 MORE ACRES AT A TOTAL OF 1.3 MILLION, AND THEN IN 2016, WE WERE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THE 62 ACRES AT 3.5 MILLION. TO THE RIGHT OF THAT, YOU CAN SEE THE THREE PARCELS THAT WERE PURCHASED AND THEN THE 100 PARCEL, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO IS WHAT WAS MASTER PLANNED, WHICH LEADS US INTO THE MASTER PLAN OF GRAY BRANCH PARK. AS MENTIONED IN 2012, WE COMPLETED A MASTER PLAN FOR THE GRAY BRANCH PARK, COVERING THE ORIGINAL 100 ACRES.

WE BEGAN TO UPDATE THE MASTER PLAN IN 2017, INCLUDING THE ADDITIONAL TWO PARCELS WE WENT AS FAR AS HAVING A PUBLIC INPUT MEETING AS WELL AS OUR ONLINE SURVEY. I WANTED TO SHARE JUST A

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POTENTIAL NEED FOR SATELLITE OFFICES FOR THE PARK MAINTENANCE STAFF DUE TO LIMITED EXISTING SPACE, AND THEN THE POTENTIAL LENGTH OF THE LICENSE AGREEMENT COULD BE A RESTRICTION ON FUTURE PARKS DEVELOPMENT. SO HERE IS WHAT WAS PROPOSED ON THE LEFT, WHICH WAS GRAY BRANCH PARK. AND THE RIGHT IS YOU CAN SEE IN THE LINED AREA TO THE RIGHT AND THAT IS THE FLOODWAY. AND FLOODPLAIN.

SO WHAT MOSTLY WAS PROPOSED IS IN FLOODPLAIN. SO JUST CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS THE USE OF THE FARM, MCKINNEY ISD OPTIONS, THEY HAVE EXPRESSED THAT THIS COULD BE A BENEFICIAL PARTNERSHIP AND IS WILLING TO BE A PARTNER, SUBJECT TO FINAL DETAILS. SO THE TOTAL OF THE ACREAGE IS 43.7 ACRES AND THEN THE NORTH AND THE BLUE IS WHERE THE FFA AGRICULTURE BARN IS, WHICH IS JUST SHY OF 20 ACRES. I ROUNDED UP. AND THEN THIS IS MORE OF A CONSISTENT USE FOR THE PROPOSED FARM USE IN THIS SITE. THIS SITE IS ALSO NOT IN THE FLOODPLAIN, SO I WILL GO BACK TO THE STAFF CONCERNS. STAFF IS NOT RECOMMENDING JUST BASED ON THESE CONCERNS.

HOWEVER, WE WILL SUPPORT THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL GIVES US AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS? YES. WITH THE AWARDING OF THE GRANT FOR THE

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THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE INTERESTED. SO AS SOON AS WE GET THAT GRANT, WE WILL IDENTIFY MATCHING FUNDS ON OUR END AND MOVE QUICKLY WITHIN. I WOULD SAY, REALISTICALLY, A YEAR AND THEN YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THIS WAS A THIS LAND WAS KIND OF PUT ON THE BACK BURNER WHEN YOU FOCUSED ON THE SOCCER FIELDS. SO HAD THIS PROPOSAL FOR A, YOU KNOW, A COMMUNITY FARM NOT COME UP.

WOULD THIS STILL BE SHELVED? WOULD YOU EVEN STILL BE EVEN LOOKING AT GREAT RANCH RIGHT NO? I KNOW WHAT WE WE'VE DETERMINED, JUST BASED ON THE MASTER PLAN, THAT THERE WERE THERE WAS A NEED FOR NATURE TRAILS. AND WE WERE LOOKING AT SOME ELEMENTS THAT WE COULD BRING TO THAT, JUST KNOWING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH FUNDING TO MAKE IT WHERE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THE SPORT FIELDS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. SO, AMY, WHEN THE WHEN THERE WAS THE PUBLIC INPUT, IF I REMEMBER IT, THERE WAS, THERE WAS ALL THESE THINGS LISTED AND PEOPLE IDENTIFIED. RIGHT. ALL THOSE THINGS WERE LISTED. OBVIOUSLY WHAT WASN'T LISTED, THERE WAS A FARM. SO OF COURSE IT WOULDN'T BE ON HERE HAD IT BEEN ON HERE. WE CAN ONLY WE CAN ONLY GUESS WHAT THE WHAT THE APPEAL WOULD HAVE BEEN. CERTAINLY IN MY MIND, AS I LOOK UP THERE AND I SEE THE TWO THINGS THAT GARNERED THE MOST SUPPORT NATURE TRAILS AND TRAIL.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE THERE IS, BUT IT IT SEEMS LIKE. WELL, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM RICK. HE'S GOT A PRESENTATION, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE MAINTAINING SOMETHING WITHIN THE NATURE NOT NOT NOT STRUCTURES, NOT FIELDS WERE WHAT WAS IDENTIFIED AS PRIORITY, BUT AGAIN, TO SAY THAT THE FARM WASN'T IN THE IN ONE OF THE ITEMS. OF COURSE, IT WASN'T GIVEN AS A CHOICE. THAT'D BE FAIR TO SAY. THAT'S CORRECT. I'M THE ONLY OTHER SMALL TIDBIT WOULD BE OUTDOOR CLASSROOM WAS ALL WAS RANKED LOWER ON THE LIST AS WELL. SO YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THAT PEOPLE WOULD IDENTIFY AN OUTDOOR CLASSROOM BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS TREMENDOUS SUPPORT FOR THE LEARNING GARDEN, RIGHT? OF COURSE. AND PUBLIC CAME OUT IN HUGE SUPPORT OF THAT OVER ON THE EAST SIDE. OF COURSE, THAT'S A MUCH SMALLER ENDEAVOR, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE HAD IT HAD IT BEEN HERE, WE MIGHT SEE THAT THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN SUPPORT AND THERE MAY NOT HAVE. OF COURSE, I DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL, BUT BUT I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT WASN'T ON THERE. SO IT CERTAINLY WOULD NOT BE ONE OF THE USES.

RICK, COULD YOU YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION, I BELIEVE ONE QUESTION. I'M SO SORRY. THE TRAIL THAT YOU AND MR. JONES WERE TALKING ABOUT, THE ONE FUNDED BY THE COUNTY, WOULD THAT WOULD THE PLANNED ACCESS OF THAT SOMEHOW INTERFERE WITH THIS FARM, OR IS THAT A SEPARATE DOES THAT OCCUPY SEPARATE REAL ESTATE? IT'S A SEPARATE PIECE, BUT IT JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE TRAIL, THE EXISTING TRAIL AND SOUTH OF 380 CONNECTS TO THE NORTH. SO WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS CONNECTED, CONNECTED TO THE TRAILS. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL FOR US TO HEAR THE VISION. MR. WELLS. THANK YOU. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, FOR SAKE, THAT MY GLASS IS ON HERE. I'M GOING TO NEED YOU TO USE YOUR IMAGINATION JUST A BIT, OKAY? BECAUSE WHAT I'M PROPOSING TO DO IS VERY FEW PEOPLE'S PROPOSED UNITED STATES. WHAT MCKINNEY ROUTES DOES ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS, VERY FEW PEOPLE DO IN THE WORLD. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PLACES OR THINGS THAT WE CAN GO TO AND USE AS AN EXAMPLE TO MAKE OURSELVES BETTER, RIGHT. AND SO WHAT I'M PROPOSING HERE AND WHAT I AND WHAT OUR BOARD IS PROPOSING, IS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO USE SOME IMAGINATION BECAUSE I TRULY BELIEVE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING CAN CAN MAKE NOT ONLY A HUGE A HUGE IMPACT FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY AND ITS COMMUNITY, BUT THE CITY OF MCKINNEY AS A MUNICIPALITY. OPEN SPACE IS SUPER. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

THIS IS BEING RECORDED. I KNOW, I THINK IT CAN ENHANCE THIS IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS. SO. A FEW

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THERE'S A THERE'S A AND I'LL TALK ABOUT JUST A BIT HERE IN A SECOND ABOUT NOT BEING ADA COMPLIANT. IF IT'S NOT ADA COMPLIANT, IT'S NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A HALF ACRE GARDEN OR AN ACRE GARDEN FOR THE COMMUNITY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS ADA COMPLIANCE IN THESE KIND OF COMPLIANCE. WE WON'T DO IT. THAT'S JUST HOW WE OPERATE. YOU KNOW, IN GENERAL, A LITTLE BIT OF A TANGENT, BUT WE

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IT'S NOT IT'S I DIDN'T EVEN THINK IT WAS ON PEOPLE'S RADAR SCREENS REALLY. BUT OKAY. BUT WE'RE JUST PROPOSING THAT WE COULD MAKE THAT SO MUCH NICER AND MORE EDUCATIONAL AND JUST USE THE WHOLE THING. I, AS FAR AS THE MCKINNEY ROOTS GOES, I NEED 5 TO 6 ACRES. YOU KNOW, AND BUT WE CERTAINLY WANT TO BRING LIVESTOCK IN TO OUR PROGRAMS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY HELPS ALL KINDS OF SOIL FERTILITY AND ALL KINDS OF EDUCATION. SO WHEN GRAY BRANCH CAME UP, WHEN I WHEN I SAY CAME UP, I DROVE OUT THERE ONE DAY LOOKING FOR BECAUSE I'VE LOOKED AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES WITHIN THE CITY TO MOVE MCKINNEY ROOTS. MY MAIN GOAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CENTER OF THE CITY AS I CAN. AS WE MARCH NORTH AND WE AND OUR CITY MOVES NORTH, THE MORE THE CENTER OF THE CITY FOR ME WILL MAKE IT MUCH MORE FROM AN EDUCATIONAL STANDPOINT. MCKINNEY ROOTS OF GRAY BRANCH WILL BE THE REGION'S NATURAL, UNIQUE DESTINATION, CONNECTED BY CITY TRAILS FROM DOWNTOWN NORTH MCKINNEY AND STONEBRIDGE SOUTH, AND STONEBRIDGE AND SOUTH. CAN YOU IMAGINE GETTING ON YOUR BIKE IN DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY RIDING A BIKE OUT TO THIS, TO THIS GARDEN AND ALL THESE TREES ARE LABELED, AND ALL THESE PLANTS ARE LABELE, AND TAKE A WALK WITH YOUR FAMILY AND THEN GO AND HAVE A PICNIC IN THE CORNER THAT'S ATTAINABLE. IT'S ATTAINABLE. DUE TO THE BEAUTIFICATION OF PARKLAND THROUGH WILDFLOWERS, TREE PLANTINGS, AND TRAIL SYSTEM, GRAY BRANCH PARKLAND IS ALREADY ONE OF THE MOST PHOTOGRAPHED PLACES IN MCKINNEY AND MCKINNEY. ROOTS WILL EVEN ADD TO THAT, AND SO. I DON'T FEEL LIKE I CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER, ESPECIALLY WHEN SOMEBODY COMES UP AND TALKS ABOUT THE THINGS THAT I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT. I WAS CERTAINLY A LEARNING PROCESS FOR ME, BUT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I STARTED HEARING THERE MAY BE PUSHBACK WITH THE CITY. I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE, BECAUSE IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE, IT'S JUST GOING TO MAKE US BETTER AS AN OPERATOR AND TO ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS. SO THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH MASTER PARK PLANS AND PUBLIC PARKLAND. THE LATEST UPDATE, THE GRAY BRANCH PARKLAND, WAS COMPLETED IN 2012. AND I'M NOT GOING TO READ THAT BECAUSE AMY ALREADY JUST KIND OF SHE REALLY ALREADY KIND OF ADDRESSED THAT PROPOSED USE IS NOT APPROPRIATE USE FOR PUBLIC PARKLAND. THERE'S SIMILAR USES OF PUBLIC LAND, AND PARKLAND CAN BE FOUND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY IN DIFFERENT FORMS. AND I HAVE A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF THAT AT THE VERY END

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I THINK THAT IS A THAT IS A COMMUNITY IDENTIFIER AND I LOVE IT. THANK YOU. GREAT. I'VE SUPPORTED YOUR SEED PROJECT. I'VE BEEN TO YOUR DINNERS, I'VE TAKEN YOUR FARM TOURS, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. YOU'VE BEEN DOWN HERE TO ASK US TO HELP YOU OUT WITH ONE OF YOUR RESTAURANTS. IN THE RECENT PAST, AND WE'VE ACCOMMODATED YOU, AND YOU'VE EVEN BEEN GRACIOUS TO MY FAMILY OUTSIDE OF ME. THIS IS NOT FARMLAND. AND THERE ARE OTHER AVENUES AVAILABLE TO YOU. YOUR ASSOCIATED WITH THE MCKINNEY INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT. THEY'VE MADE AN OFFER FOR YOU TO COME OUT TO OLD MILL ROAD, WHICH IS MORE APPROPRIATE SETTING AND I JUST CANNOT SUPPORT THIS ONE. OKAY. CAN I RESPOND TO THAT EITHER BECAUSE I THINK I THINK THAT WHEN WE THINK OF FARM, WE THINK OF FARM IN ONE AND ONE AVENUE. THIS IS NOT JUST A FARM, CHARLIE. THIS IS THIS IS A THIS IS A IMMERSIVE EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE ABOUT NATURE. IT REALLY IS. THE FARM IS JUST TUCKED IN THE FIRST FIVE ACRES OF IT. AS FAR AS YOUR YOUR VEGETABLE PRODUCTION. RIGHT. BUT THEN YOU HAVE ALL THIS UNUSED ACREAGE THAT IS NOT IT'S NOT DOING ANYTHING. YOU COULD ENHANCE THAT SO MUCH MORE. BUT IF YOU JUST KIND OF THINK OF IT AS A FARM AND A FARM, ONLY THEN YEAH, IT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER TO GO. IT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER TO GO TO OUT BY THE AIRPORT WITH THE FFA BARN, WHICH IS A GREAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. WE SWING AND MISS OUR COMMUNITY PIECE OF IT. IF WE THINK IT'S JUST A FARM. I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA. THANK YOU AND I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF IT. I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GETTING THE KIDS INVOLVED BECAUSE AS A SOCIETY, WE'RE GETTING AWAY FROM NUTRITION AND IT'S GREAT THAT THE KIDS GET TO GO AND SEE HOW TO GROW SOMETHING AND SEE WHAT TO EAT. I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN HANDING THEM HAMBURGERS AND FRENCH FRIES FROM MCDONALD'S AND WENDY'S AND WHOEVER, AND IT'S TIME AS A SOCIETY TO GET BACK TO TEACHING THESE PEOPLE HOW TO GROW THEIR OWN FOOD, LETTING THEM KNOW WHERE IT COMES FROM, EATING HEALTHY. AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. THIS IS A UNIQUE IDEA. THAT'S WHY IT DOESN'T FIT REALLY IN THE PARK MASTER PLAN.

I AGREE WITH WITH THE MAYOR THAT IF IT DID, I THINK IT WOULD BE A PRIORITY AMONG OUR CITIZENS. SO I'M VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF IT. I'M GOING TO CALL A SPECIAL SHOCKING GUEST STAR FOR A MOMENT, IF THAT'S OKAY. MR. TILTON, WOULD YOU COME UP HERE FOR A MOMENT? STEVE TILTON, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, AND, AMY, MAYBE YOU COULD JOIN HIM, TOO. OH, YEAH, THAT MIGHT BE NEXT. STEVE. THE CITY ACQUIRED THIS PARK LAND IN 2016, AND IT DOES HAVE FLOODPLAIN IN IT. JUST TELL ME IF THIS CAME AVAILABLE TODAY, IF WE DIDN'T OWN IT, IF THIS WAS OWNED BY SOMEONE

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WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS USE FITS WHAT'S IN THE MASTER PLAN. OF COURSE, AS AMY STATED, IF THE CITY COUNCIL BELIEVES THAT IT IS AN APPROPRIATE USE. AND OF COURSE WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH MR. WELLS AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT THE BEST PIECE OF PROPERTY AND FARM AND MCKINNEY ROOTS DEVELOPMENT THAT IT CAN BE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. I WANT TO INTRODUCE A COUPLE OTHER POINTS THAT HAVE NOT. AND I'M DONE STEVE. SO THANK YOU. I'M JUST GOING TO GO ON A BIT OF A MISSIVE THAT I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO. RICK, THIS IS A TOUGH PIECE OF LAND. HERE'S BASICALLY I'M THE LIAISON TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. HERE'S BASICALLY WHAT PARKS LOOK LIKE IN THIS CITY. WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING UP THE TALK ABOUT COLIMA RANCH, WHICH IS 2600 ACRES OF HOUSING. IT'S GOING TO NEED PARKS. THE DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO DO PARKLAND DEDICATION. WE HAVE TO BUILD NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS. THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT. WE JUST PUT A PIG IN THE PYTHON FOR PARKS, WHICH IS TOWN LAKE. WE ARE REDOING THAT. THAT IS THE PIG IN THE PYTHON. IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF YEARS FOR US TO GET THROUGH THAT WORK AND DO THE EXPENSES. WHAT I WOULD MAINTAIN IS IF THIS CAME UP TO ME, IF SOMEONE WAS COMING UP TO SELL THIS TO ME AND I HAD A DECISION TO MAKE ON CITY COUNCIL, I WOULD NOT WANT TO BUY THIS LAND. AND THERE'S A COUPLE REASONS WHY THE INGRESS EGRESS IS BAD. IF ANYONE'S EVER BEEN ON GRAPE RANCH ROAD, YOU'LL KNOW THAT IT IS ONE OF THE MOST PROFOUNDLY BEAUTIFUL ROADS IN MCKINNEY, AT LEAST IN MY OPINION. THERE'S NO CURBS, CANOPIES OF TREES. IT'S JUST ASPHALT. BUT IT'S IN AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD. WHAT THE CITY DOESN'T REALLY DO AT LEAST IN MY TENURE, IS WE DON'T GO INTO ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS BY 60 ACRES. AND THEN START MASTER PLANNING AROUND THOSE NEIGHBORS. THOSE NEIGHBORS ARE GOING TO COME OUT AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, HEY, WE HAVE BAND. WE WERE HERE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NOW, WHAT THIS DOES IS IT TAKES LAND THAT WE OWN THAT IN, REALLY IN MY MIND, FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ACTIVATING THIS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DEMANDS UP IN HONEY CREEK. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DEMANDS UP IN A LOT OF AREAS TO DO PARKS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO INCLUDE THIS. THERE WILL COME A TIME WHEN MCKINNEY IS BUILT OUT AND WE'RE LOOKING INWARD FOR INFILL PARKS. AND THIS WILL PROBABLY COME ON THE AGENDA AT THAT TIME.

AND I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT WHAT THAT COUNCIL MIGHT DO, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS, FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS.

WHAT I FULLY EXPECT FROM THIS PIECE OF LAND IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NATURE TRAILS, AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE RATS, AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE FLOODS. AND SO I'VE KIND OF GOT AN EITHER OR THERE. WHAT I'M NOT ANXIOUS FOR IS FOR THE CITY. AND RICK, YOU HEARD THIS AND THIS IS KIND OF A QUESTION FOR YOU. WHAT I'VE BUILT A CASE FOR IS THAT THE PARKS BUDGET HAS NEEDS FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS. WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE ANTICIPATE IN THIS CITY AND WHAT WE'RE DOING TO REDO TOWN LAKE, WHICH IS A HUGE, GREAT PROJECT. BUT IF WE NEED POWER IN HERE AND SEWAGE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, ARE YOU INDICATING THAT YOUR GROUP WILL HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO SEE THAT THROUGH WITHOUT COMING TO THE CITY FOR THAT? YES. OKAY. SO BARRING ANY UNFORESEEN THINGS THAT I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. BUT FROM WHERE YOU STAND RIGHT NOW, I CURRENTLY HAVE YES. AS A MAN OF GOODWILL, THAT'S THE ANSWER. SO MUCH LIKE THE MAYOR, THIS IS AN OUTSTANDING, VERY UNIQUE

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YEAH, IT IS. BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PARKS, LAND AND PARKS HERE THAT THAT HAVE RESTRICTIONS FOR PUBLIC USE ON THEM. AND I'M JUST GOING TO LIST A FEW THE SOCCER FIELDS WE HAVE, WE WENT THROUGH A THING A COUPLE MONTHS AGO AT CRAIG RANCH. A GUY WANTED TO BASICALLY TAKE HIS REC TEAM TO PLAY SOCCER ON THOSE FIELDS. CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT WORKING THROUGH THE MSA. THE MCKINNEY SOCCER ASSOCIATION. WE KIND OF HAVE RULES WITH THESE FIELDS. WE HAVE SIMILAR CONCERNS WITH THE COURTS OF MCKINNEY. IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE APEX, YOU GOT TO BUY A MEMBERSHIP, EVEN THOUGH IF YOU'RE A TAXPAYER, IT'S A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER. SO PARKS IS NOT ALL BONNIE WINK RIGHT. BUT WHAT RICK, YOU'RE PROPOSING IS THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE A FEE FOR ENTRY TO MCKINNEY CITIZENRY OR REALLY ANYONE FOR THAT MATTER, TO COME AND PLY THEIR CRAFT ON THIS. AND CURRENTLY PLYING THEIR CRAFT MEANS WALKING ON NATURE TRAILS. BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING A LOT MORE TO IT. SO IF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS AND I'M JUST GOING TO USE A FILL IN THE BLANK FOR TEN YEARS, BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS, AND I CANNOT IMAGINE THAT OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACTIVATE THIS LAND IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY IN TEN YEARS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE INGRESS EGRESS ISSUES THAT I MENTIONED. AND WITH THE BASICALLY, THE NEIGHBORS COMING TO US. I THINK THIS IS A HUGE WIN. THANK YOU. MICHAEL, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? NO, THAT'S KIND OF KIND OF WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO IN MY QUESTION IS LIKE, IS HAD THIS PROJECT NOT COME UP, WHAT WOULD THIS LAND BE? IT WAS SITTING VACANT BEFORE I EVEN GOT ON COUNCIL. MY COMMUNITY I ACTUALLY LIVE IN AUBURN HILLS. I LIVE NORTH OF HERE. AND THE BIGGEST THING WHEN I EVEN RAN FOR COUNCIL IS THEY WANTED THE NATURE TRAILS TO BE BUILT AND THEY KEEP ASKING WHEN ARE THE TRAILS ARE GOING TO BE BUILT, YOU KNOW, SO AND EVEN THROUGH THE PRESENTATION WE'VE SEEN THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS PUT ON HOLD FOR THE SOCCER FIELDS. I MEAN, I THINK YOU CAN STILL DO THIS PROJECT AND HAVE NATURE, YOU KNOW, NATURE TRAILS, WHICH I STILL IT ENHANCES. IT MAKES SURE THAT IT'S DONE. YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THIS, I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THE PEOPLE NORTH OF 380 WANT TO BE ABLE TO RIDE THEIR BIKES AND GET TO THE SOUTH OF 380 WITHOUT HAVING TO GET ON 380, YOU KNOW? SO TO ME, THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING AS FAR AS THE PARK ITSELF, I DON'T REALLY KNOW. I MEAN, I GRAY BRANCH IS ONE OF THE PRETTIEST ROADS IN MCKINNEY. IF ANYBODY'S EVER HAD TO, LIKE, DRIVE ON IT TO ADD BALL FIELDS AND ALL THIS, YOU KNOW, OTHER STUFF. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW YOU WOULD GET PARKING DOWN THOSE THAT THAT TIGHT ROAD, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF ENGINEERING THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO INTO THAT. AND SO I FOR ME, JUST A PERSON THAT GOES ON THAT ROAD QUITE FREQUENTLY, WHAT ELSE COULD IT BE? YOU KNOW, SO TO HAVE A COMMUNITY FARM OR EVEN JUST A COMMUNITY OPEN SPACE IS THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF WITH TRAILS AND, AND SO I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR IT. I THINK MY ONLY CONCERN IS, IS THAT IT IS PARKLAND. YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE A NONPROFIT, BUT AS OTHER NONPROFITS SEE THAT. I MEAN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO WORK WITH OTHER NONPROFITS THAT THAT WANT TO BE ON THAT SITE, TOO, BECAUSE IT IS PUBLIC LAND AND IT'S YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE IF THIS WASN'T BROUGHT UP, PEOPLE WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT GREEN BRANCH PARK AND THEY WOULDN'T EVEN BE TALKING ABOUT IT. BUT NOW THAT WE ARE BRINGING IT UP AND IT MAY SPUR THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, HEY, WHAT? WHAT CAN I DO THERE? AND SO, I MEAN, I'M THERE FOR THE PARK. I MEAN, I'M THERE FOR THE, THE EVEN IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A COMMUNITY FARM, BUT THE WILLINGNESS I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU BEING THERE IS GOING TO DRAW MORE ATTENTION TO IT, AND YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE CITIZENS OF MCKINNEY THAT MAY HAVE OTHER IDEAS. YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THAT REMEMBER, WE PSA IS AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING WE DID WITH PARKLAND, AND THAT'S A IT'S YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE EVER CONTEMPLATED THAT THAT WAS GOING TO OPEN THE DOOR.

AND, AND PSA WAS GOING TO HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT WHAT OTHER ENTITIES WANTED TO COME IN WITH WITH SIMILAR USES OR WHATNOT. I MEAN, WE HAVE PRECEDENTS IN THE CITY FOR DOING THINGS VERY SIMILAR TO THIS REQUEST. THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS VERY DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS THAN PSA IS PSA. WHEN MY KIDS WENT THERE, OF COURSE THEY PAID AND PAID TO PLAY IN LEAGUES AND ALL THAT. HERE THERE'S THIS IS A AND YOU TALK ABOUT AN EXPERIENCE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO OFFER. AND I SAY KIDS BECAUSE I'M THINKING OF MY GRANDKIDS. BUT OLDER ANYBODY TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND ENJOY THAT PROPERTY IN A EDUCATED EDUCATING WAY, A PASSIVE WAY, I MEAN, WE TALK ABOUT TRAILS,

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STRATEGIC PLANNING CONVERSATION THAT THEY HAD A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ALLOTMENT THAT THEY GIVE TO THE CITY, TO THE PARKS EVERY YEAR, WHICH I THINK IS FIVE AND A HALF DOLLARS MILLION A YEAR. AND THERE WAS SOME CONSTERNATION OR CONCERN THAT THERE IS A BACKLOG IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TERM. PATRICK JUST USED PIG IN A SOMETHING LIKE A PYTHON PIG IN A PYTHON. BUT THANK YOU. THE IDEA OF HOW MUCH. PARK DEMAND WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AND HOW MUCH PARK SUPPLY WE'RE ABLE TO DELIVER. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? LIKE WHAT IS THE. I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A LOT MORE DEMAND THAN WE HAVE CAPACITY TO DELIVER. I WISH I HAD THE SLIDE, BUT CERTAINLY IN THE MASTER PLAN THERE IS A SLIDE AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HELP ME RECALL WHEN WE USED THAT LAST, BUT THE SHORT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS ABSOLUTELY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE MASTER PLAN AND ESPECIALLY IT'S PROBABLY SPORTS FIELDS MORE THAN ANYTHING, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF SOCCER FIELDS, BASEBALL FIELDS, PICKLEBALL, IF YOU LOOK KIND OF ACROSS ALL OF OUR PLATFORMS, I WOULD SAY OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, WE ARE PROBABLY AT 25 TO 30% OF WHAT WE NEED BASED ON PROFESSIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS, BASED ON GOING THROUGH THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS, STAFF DOESN'T FEEL THAT THE CITY WILL EVER BE AT THE LEVELS THAT ARE THAT ARE IN THE MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDED, BUT OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE GOALS, AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU DON'T CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARD THEM. SO CERTAINLY I'M ANTICIPATING A LITTLE BIT, IF THIS PROPERTY IS NOT ON THE PARK SYSTEM, THERE WILL BE IN TERMS OF A CLASSIC TRADITIONAL PARKS USE, THERE WILL BE CERTAINLY OTHER THINGS FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY AND THE STAFF TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL IF THE CITY COUNCIL DETERMINES THAT THIS PARCEL TO THIS DAY IS A CLASSIC PARK, USE YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE WE WILL PROGRAM IT. MOST LIKELY IT WILL BE THE TYPE OF NATURE TRAILS THAT YOU SEE THERE NOW, AND AN EXPANSION OF THOSE TYPES OF SERVICES. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE MASTER PLAN, AND CERTAINLY I CAN I CAN GET THAT TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T HAVE IT MEMORIZED AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD, KIND OF ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT PROBABLY NO OTHER USE OTHER THAN SPORTS FIELDS. DO WE HAVE NEEDS AS IDENTIFIED IN THE MASTER PLAN BASED ON PROFESSIONAL PROFESSIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS AND BASED ON WHERE WE FALL TODAY? JUSTIN, DO YOU MIND IF I ASK A QUESTION BASED ON WHAT HE JUST SAID? I DON'T MEAN TO MESS UP YOUR TRAIN THERE, BUT HE JUST SAID SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS GREAT. YOU KNOW, STEVE, IF I IF I HEARD YOU RIGHT JUST THEN, IT'S BEEN FAIRLY IDENTIFIED AND WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE BECAUSE THE FLOODPLAIN AND WHATNOT THAT THAT FIELDS ARE NOT GOING TO BE HOME TO THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND SO THE USE WOULD BE OPEN AND TRAILS. I, I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, BUT BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEEN. SO BASED ON THAT, I WOULD THINK THAT THIS DOESN'T THIS DOES NOT HINDER THAT IN TERMS OF SPORTS FIELD. NO, IT PROBABLY WOULD NOT BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T HINDER IT. THIS PARTICULAR PIECE, THE 62 ACRES, WOULD BE SPORTS FIELDS BECAUSE OF THE FLOODPLAIN. SO WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED IS SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY FITS IN WITH WHAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID THE STAFF WOULD VIEW THIS, USE THIS, THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY TO BE IN THE PARK.

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OPEN SPACE TRAILS. I WOULD ARGUE IT COMPLEMENTS THAT IT DOES. BUT AT A VERY MINIMUM, IT DOESN'T DISRUPT THAT. IT DOESN'T. IT DOESN'T REMOVE THAT. IN TERMS OF SPORTS FIELDS, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SORRY, JUSTIN. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. YEAH. NO PROBLEM. SO. I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M GOING TO OFFEND ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING ABOUT PARKS PRE MAJKOWSKI WAS WE BOUGHT A LOT OF FLOODPLAIN LAND AND WE SUNK A LOT OF MONEY INTO ASSETS THAT AREN'T DEVELOPABLE TO BE SPORTS FIELDS OR

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AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE ALLOCATED THE RESOURCES TO SAY WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT BECAUSE WE'RE SPENDING X NUMBER OF DOLLARS THROUGH OUR BOND, WE'RE SPENDING X NUMBER THROUGH OUR ANNUAL BUDGET. WE'RE SPENDING X NUMBER THROUGH THE CDC AND WE'RE ABLE TO DELIVER ONGOING ADDITIONS TO PUBLIC OPEN LANDS TO, YOU KNOW, SOCCER FIELDS THAT CATCH UP WITH. AND WE'RE NOT LOOKING BACK AT SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS WAS A 1 TO 1. WE'LL USE IT SOMEDAY. USE. BUT NOW WE CAN'T I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF I'M COMMUNICATING THAT VERY WELL, BUT I THINK YOU ARE AND CERTAINLY I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY SHOCK TO THE, TO THE CITY COUNCIL, EVEN IF CINDY IS HERE FROM THE CDC. THIS IS THE LAST YEAR OF FUNDING IN THE ORIGINAL TEN YEAR AGREEMENT FROM THE CDC. THAT'S WHAT THE CONVERSATION AND IMPETUS OF THE CONVERSATION AND STAFF IS OBVIOUSLY DOING HOMEWORK ON THAT. I CERTAINLY AM COMFORTABLE SAYING, AT LEAST FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, THOSE CDC DOLLARS ARE INVALUABLE. AND I WILL SPEAK FOR MYSELF. MAYBE NOT ENOUGH, AT LEAST AT LEAST YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HEAR FROM STAFF THAT THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT, SEE THAT BE INCREASED. AND WE'RE DOING SOME HOMEWORK RIGHT NOW. I'LL SAY I'M SAYING IT BECAUSE I WANT IT TO BE. ABSOLUTELY. I WANT TO SAY THAT WE NEED TO JUSTIFY THAT

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AND IF THE CITY COUNCIL SAYS YES AND IT'S APPROPRIATE, USE, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO ALL OF YOU, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SITTING WHERE YOU'RE AT AND STAFF IS HERE. AND WE, OF COURSE, WILL WORK WITH MR. WELLS AND WE'LL WORK AND MAKE THE BEST PROJECT THAT WE CAN MAKE IT. BUT FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT, STAFF BELIEVES THAT IS OBVIOUSLY A POLICY DECISION FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO YOUR TO YOUR LATTER POINT ON A BIGGER POINT, THE RESOURCE QUESTION, HOW DO WE START CHIPPING AWAY AT SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE MASTER PLAN? OVERALL, STAFF IS ACTIVELY WORKING ON A PRESENTATION FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CDC NOW, AND THAT WILL BE PRESENTED PROBABLY SOMETIME IN THE EARLY PART OF 2025. BUT STEVE, IT HAS BEEN IT'S FIRST OF ALL, REMEMBER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 219 ACRES. AND OF THIS WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 60 OF THE 209. SO THERE'S STILL A WHOLE LOT OF DEVELOPABLE LAND. I KNOW THAT I DON'T VIEW IT AS SOMETHING THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, COMING VERY WHIMSICAL. I MEAN, I THINK THAT THE THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO AND ALL THE CONVERSATIONS AND PARKS MEETINGS WITH AT THAT TIME, MAJKOWSKI, IT WAS A LOT OF EFFORT AND DECISION MAKING WENT INTO IDENTIFYING THIS IS NOT A PLACE FOR THE FIELDS. THIS IS NOT GOING TO SATISFY THAT NEED. WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? THAT THAT WE ABANDONED THE IDEA OF DEVELOPING BALL FIELDS HERE? I WOULD SAY THAT'S PRETTY ACCURATE. YES. SO WE'VE DONE THAT. AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF EFFORT AND I DON'T WANT TO ANYONE TO HAVE THE IMPRESSION THAT JUST THAT'S A DECISION WE'RE MAKING HERE. YOU KNOW SNAP. THIS IS THIS HAS BEEN WELL THOUGHT THROUGH. THE LAND'S BEEN LOOKED AT THE ALL THE ISSUES WITH IT FROM INGRESS, EGRESS FLOODPLAIN. SO WE REALLY KNOW THAT A LOT OF THOUGHT WENT INTO THAT. SO NOW WE'RE SAYING THAT WE'VE GOT WE'VE IDENTIFIED PRETTY FIRMLY THAT THIS WOULD BE TRAILS AND OPEN SPACE PARK. WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT. AND SO NOW WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WHEN OPPORTUNITY COMES YOU'RE EITHER YOU'RE YOU YOU'RE READY TO TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY AND GO WITH IT OR YOU KICK THE CAN OR DEFER.

I'M A THE RIGHT OPPORTUNITY COMES FOR ME. I HEAR IT AND I AND I TRUST A LOT IN IN THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE TO DATE TO GET US TO THE DECISIONS WE'VE MADE ON THIS PIECE. MR. MAYOR, I WANT TO FORGIVE ME. I WANT TO REITERATE ONE POINT. WHAT I SAID TO MR. WELLS AND WHAT I'M A FAN OF IS LOOKING AT SOME KIND OF FINITE NUMBER OF YEARS, LIKE TEN YEARS, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE CASE IN TEN YEARS. BUT WHAT I WILL SAY, THIS IS A LOT OF NONPROFITS AND A LOT OF FOUNDATIONS ARE WHAT I WOULD CALL FOUNDER DRIVEN. AND, RICK, I LOVE THE WORK YOU DO, BUT I THINK AND I BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT TO A LARGE EXTENT, IF YOU WEREN'T HERE TO DO IT, IT WOULDN'T BE DONE. AND SO I DON'T KNOW, IN TEN YEARS WHERE RICK WELLS IS GOING TO BE WITH THIS.

BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT IF THIS IS AN OLD, TIRED, ATROPHYING IDEA, THEN THAT NEXT COUNCIL GETS TO MAKE THE BEST JUDGMENT THEY CAN FOR WHAT IT I. BUT IF IT IS NOT AN OLD ATROPHYING IDEA AND IT IS STILL A MANIFESTLY GOOD IDEA, I DON'T THINK ANY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE THE POLITICAL NAIVETE TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM THE CITY THAT ENJOYS IT. SO I DO WANT TO GIVE THE CITY AN OUT. THIS IS NOT ANY KIND OF PERMANENT THING, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE YOU GET TO PUT THIS IN. AND I THINK THE ACTIVATION OF IT WILL BE MAGNIFICENT. BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE SAYING THIS IS A PERMANENT THING, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IF I WERE UP HERE IN TEN YEARS, I WON'T BE. BUT IF I WERE UP HERE IN TEN YEARS AND THIS WASN'T WORKING OUT, I'D BE THE FIRST ONE TO SAY, HEY, LET'S REPURPOSE IT TO THE HAPPY FUN DRONE PARK OR WHATEVER THE HELL WE HAVE. SO, YOU KNOW, SO RESPONSE TO THAT AS FAR AS THE TEN YEARS.

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RIGHT. AND SO I CAN'T ASK THERE HAS TO BE A THERE HAS TO BE A TEN YEAR LEASE. THERE HAS TO BE WE HAVE TO HAVE DELIVERABLES. WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO. IF I GET HIT BY A BUS IN 5 IN 5 YEARS OR FIVE MONTHS, WE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE A HINDRANCE. SO WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. AND I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. BUT ARE YOU GOOD WITH THE TEN YEARS? YES, SIR. OKAY. WITH AN OPTION. WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO IS, IS I MEAN, I DO THINK THAT I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE HARD FOR FUTURE COUNCILS TO MAKE THIS DECISION. AND I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ENCUMBERING IT IN A WAY WITH DIRECTION HERE AT 3:00 ON A TUESDAY AFTERNOON, THAT THAT IS COMPLETELY INADEQUATE FOR THE WAY IN WHICH WE'RE ENCUMBERING PUBLIC PARKLAND. AND SO I'M JUST SAYING I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO DO WHAT STAFF HAD RECOMMENDED ABOUT GOING TO THE PARKS MASTER PLAN OR THROUGH THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD. I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO B, YOU KNOW, PUT UP AS A DISCUSSION POINT IN SOME WAY. BUT I DON'T WANT THAT HIT IT AGAINST THIS IDEA OF FINITE RESOURCES, OF THE PARKS. I WANT IT PRESENTED AS AN IDEA OF USE OF LAND THAT MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T HAVE BOUGHT IN THE FIRST PLACE. BECAUSE I THINK WHEN PEOPLE LOOK AT IT AS A I'VE GOT THE OPTION OF THIS OR I DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE TO SOME OTHER TOWN TO PLAY BASEBALL WITH MY KID EVERY SATURDAY MORNING, WHICH IS DRIVING ME NUTS, THEN IT'S A TOUGH DECISION. BUT IF WE CAN TAKE THAT ANGST AWAY FROM A PARENT AND SAY WE'RE PROVIDING ALL OF THE RESOURCES THAT WE CAN, THEN THIS THIS BECOMES A LOT EASIER DISCUSSION. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO PRESENT THAT IN A WAY THAT'S OPEN AND TRANSPARENT AND HAS THE TIME TO HAVE THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT'S NEEDED FOR THE TYPE OF ENCUMBRANCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO REALLY CREATE ON A PARKLAND. SO I TEND TO AGREE WITH MR. BELLER, BECAUSE WE HAVE A WATER TOWER IN DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY THAT'S OUT USED IT'S LIVABLE PURPOSE, AND WE CAN'T SEEM TO GET RID OF IT. AND I DON'T WANT TO SADDLE A FUTURE COUNCIL WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE SOMETHING AWAY FROM MR. WELLS OR THE COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY. AND I DO BELIEVE IT IS RUSHED. IT'S AGAINST THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF OUR STAFF WHO HAVE STUDIED THE PROJECT, AND I THINK WE GIVE STAFF THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP THIS FURTHER. I WOULD SAY THAT THAT, AS STEVE SAID, STAFF IS ONLY MAKING THIS RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED 12, TEN YEARS AGO OR WHATEVER NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. I KNOW WE JUST DID A RATIFICATION, BUT BUT THAT PLAN WAS WHEN THIS PROPERTY WAS THOUGHT TO BE A PLACE FOR FIELDS. SO WE'VE NOW IDENTIFIED THAT IT'S NOT A PLACE FOR FIELDS. SO YOUR RECOMMENDATION, IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS BASED ON FOLLOWING THE LETTER OF WHAT THAT PLAN WAS, BUT WITH THE CAVEAT THAT, AS YOU STATED, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THAT MAY NOT BE THE PLAN NOW. AND WE CERTAINLY ALREADY IDENTIFIED THAT FIELDS ARE NOT THE PLAN NOW. SO I AND THIS IDEA FOR ME ANYWAY, THAT THAT WE WON'T MAKE A DECISION TO DO SOMETHING SO, SO UNIQUE AND, AND WHAT I BELIEVE WOULD BE A HUGE BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO ENCUMBER A COUNCIL TEN YEARS FROM NOW TO HAVE TO MAKE A DIFFERENT DECISION. WELL, LET'S DON'T MAKE ANY DECISION THEN. LET'S START MAKING ALL DECISIONS ON ALL THINGS, BECAUSE EVERY DECISION WE MAKE ON EVERY USE, WHEN WE DID PSA, WHEN WE DID APEX, WHEN WE DID ALL THESE THINGS, I MEAN, WE IN ESSENCE HAVE ENCUMBERED FUTURE COUNCILS.

I GUESS. ME, I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC IDEA. AND WE'VE ALREADY IT'S BEEN STATED PRETTY CLEARLY BY STAFF THAT THIS LAND IS OPEN SPACE. IT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED SINCE BEING THAT IT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED THAT FIELDS WOULD NOT BE THERE, THIS WOULD BE TRAILS AND OPEN SPACE. THIS IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM COMPROMISES THAT. IT ENHANCES IT. AND IT'S A IT'S A COMMUNITY DRAW. IT'S A COMMUNITY BENEFIT. I'M NOT EVEN GETTING INTO THE 30,000 POUNDS OF FOOD FOR THE

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THERE WILL BE A COUNCIL IN TEN YEARS TALKING ABOUT THE SAME VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S GOT NOTHING BUT SOME TRAILS ON IT, AND WE'LL HAVE MISSED THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY UNIQUE AND REALLY POWERFUL AND EMPOWERING TO KIDS. AND I THIS IDEA OF ENCUMBERING A FUTURE COUNCIL. I DO LIKE PATRICK'S IDEA. I MEAN, IF YOU KNOW, ON A TEN YEAR LEASE, I THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO ASSUME AND STEVE, YOU SAID IT YOURSELF, IT'S PROBABLY THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THAT PARKS ARE GOING TO LOOK AT FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS. WE HAVE OTHER NEEDS AND OTHER AREAS. SO WE'VE BASICALLY SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING WITH THIS PROPERTY FOR TEN YEARS. WE WANT IT. IT'S GOING TO BE OPEN TRAILS AND OPEN SPACE. WE'RE MAINTAINING IT. WE'VE GOT A GROUP THAT'S VERY ENGAGED AND BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR A LONG, LONG TIME THAT'S COME WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SUPPORT OF THE PARKS FOUNDATION TO MAKE USE OF 60 SOME ACRES THAT THEY WILL THEN MAINTAIN BE A DRAW FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND WE'RE GOING TO MISS THIS OPPORTUNITY. I DON'T SEE IT. SO, STEVE, YOU THINK BACK IN THE 1950S WHEN THEY PUT THAT WATER TOWER UP THAT THEY WERE FORESEEING US WANTING TO TAKE IT DOWN IN THE FUTURE? PROBABLY NO. THANK YOU. I RESPECTFULLY SUBMI, MR. MAYOR, THAT I THINK WE PROBABLY HAVE CONSENSUS. PROBABLY ISN'T CHANGING THE NUMBERS. AND WE'VE GOT OTHER THINGS. YEP. SO WE HAVE CONSENSUS. YES, YES. WITH THE OBVIOUSLY WITH ME, I WANT TO BE FRANKLY JUST ABSOLUTELY CLEAR BECAUSE OF WHERE I LIVE, MY CONSTITUENTS, THAT'S UP THERE IN THE NORTH, WE WANT THE TRAIL, WE WANT THE TRAILS, THE FARM IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, BUT THE TRAIL HAS TO BE BUILT AND IT'S NOT. I DON'T WANT TO SIT IN TEN YEARS BEFORE IT'S BUILT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT ABSOLUTELY CLEAR THAT THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT PART OF THE TEN YEAR PLAN HERE. WE WANT TO GET THAT TRAIL BUILT IMMEDIATELY. THERE'S A NEW BIKE RIDER THAT GOES ACROSS 380. I WANT IT, MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY, I JUST WANT TO SUMMARIZE TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WE'RE GOING TO BASICALLY WORK WITH MR. WELLS STAFF, WILL, TO SORT OF FURTHER DISTILL HIS CONCEPT. WE'LL GO TO THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD, BRING IT, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME COMMENTS OR SOME PERSPECTIVES ON MAYBE WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. ET CETERA.

OBVIOUSLY, WE WANT TO NOT JEOPARDIZE THE TRAIL THAT'S GOING TO GO IN, WHICH WE DON'T ENVISION THAT WOULD BE THE CASE. AND THEN WE'LL GET WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH MORE DETAILS AND APPROVAL WHEN THAT COMES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYTHING STEVE, DID I CAPTURE IT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[Consider/Discuss on a Request for the use of City-Owned Land for a 2026 World Cup Soccer Training Site]

JUST WANTED TO GO THROUGH A SPECIAL REQUEST THAT WE HAD JUST NOTE THAT THIS PARCEL IS NOT PARKLAND PROPERTY, BUT IT'S JUST CITY OWNED PROPERTY. SO KIND OF DIFFERENT SET OF QUESTIONS WHEN ASKED. SO AS MANY OF YOU GUYS KNOW, FIFA WORLD CUP WILL BE COMING TO THE US NEXT YEAR IN 2026, AND THE DALLAS IS ONE OF THE AREAS OF ONE OF 26 THAT WILL BE ABLE TO HOST TEAMS AND QUALIFY AND HOST CITIES, TEAM BASED CAMPS TRAINING SITES ARE SELECTED BY FIFA AND TO BECOME THE HOME AWAY HOME. WHILE THEY'RE NOT IN LEAGUE PLAY OR MATCH PLAY. SO EMPOWERED IQ HAS RECEIVED PRELIMINARY APPROVAL FROM FIFA FOR THEIR SITE. THIS IS THE FORMER FORMER MICHAEL JOHNSON FACILITY JUST SOUTH OF THE STAR CENTER. THIS WILL BE WHERE THE TEAM EATS, SLEEPS, PRACTICES WHILE AGAIN NOT TRAVELING TO PLAY IN AND PLAY IN THEIR MATCHES SO THEY ARE LOOKING AT ACQUIRING SOME LAND FROM THE CITY. THEY ARE NEEDING A PRACTICE FACILITY, BUT PART OF THE FIFA REQUIREMENTS TO HOST A CITY IS A FIFA SIZED GRASS FIELD LIGHTS DRESSING ROOMS AND SEATING FOR OVER 250 SPECTATORS. PARKING AND SECURITY FENCING AND SO FORTH. SO HERE'S JUST AN

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BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. I'LL OPEN UP FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. YEAH. ABSENT LIFE SAFETY. YEAH.

I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT. AFTERNOON, DANIEL. LONNIE.

SO I GUESS I'LL. I'LL TELL A STORY. JUST A SMALL ONE. SO THIS THIS IS AN IDEA THAT WE HAD.

WELL, I HAD BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WHEN DALLAS WAS TOUTED TO BE A HOST CITY. SO WE'VE OBVIOUSLY KNOWN ABOUT THE WORLD CUP COMING FOR QUITE A WHILE. I HAVE WE HAVE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF PREMIER LEAGUE TEAMS IN ENGLAND AS CLIENTS CURRENTLY. SO WE'RE NOT NOT A SCARED OF THIS TYPE OF TYPE OF CLIENTELE, THIS TYPE OF ATHLETE, THIS TYPE OF COACHING STAFF, THIS TYPE OF PROGRAMS. SO THIS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY FOND OF AND VERY FAMILIAR WITH, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HANDLE. IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW THAT WE CAN FACILITATE.

WE JUST NEED THE EXTRA SPACE TO FACILITATE SUCH SUCH THINGS. I SPOKE WITH THE FA, WHICH IS THE HEAD. IT'S LIKE THE EQUIVALENT OF THE NFL IN ENGLAND. SO I SPOKE TO THEM AND THEIR

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BUT MAYBE IN A FEW YEARS WE MIGHT GET THERE. SO I DON'T I'M NOT ANXIOUS FOR THIS THING TO B, FOR THE CITY TO LOSE THIS PIECE OF LAND, BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO THINK THAT MAYBE ICE COULD EVENTUALLY COME THERE. MAYBE. MAYBE IT'LL BE BETTER SOMEWHERE ELSE. I DON'T KNOW, BUT. BUT FROM WHAT MICHAEL SAID, AND I THINK THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD POINT ABOUT THE PROMOTION OF THE CITY OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. I DON'T THINK THAT'S VERY LIKELY AT ALL. AND SO I HAVE NO OBJECTION OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. BUT IT JUST STRUCK ME AS, MAN, OH MAN, THESE GUYS ARE GOING TO BUILD THIS IN A FEW YEARS. IT'S GOING TO BE GONE. THAT SEEMS LIKE IT DOESN'T AMORTIZE VERY WELL, BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE WORLD CUP, SO. RIGHT. ANYWAY, YEAH. SO WE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DEAL THAT IS GOING TO BE UNDISCLOSED WITH FIFA. THAT'S BESIDES THE POINT. OBVIOUSLY. AGAIN, WE LIKE THE IDEA OF POTENTIALLY EXTENDING THIS PARTNERSHIP OUT TO WHERE WE PERSONALLY. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SIZE OF A STAR CENTER WOULD BE. I DON'T I WHY CAN'T WE PARTNER WITH THEM TO WHERE WE CAN BUTT UP AGAINST IT, TO WHERE THEY CAN STILL PUT IN THE SHEET OF ICE, AND THEN WE CAN STAY WITHIN THAT AS WELL? WE'RE OPEN TO ALL AND ANYTHING FOR ALL, FOR ALL THAT WORTH. BUT WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE POSSIBILITY. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, I JUST ON THE SHEET OF ICE I WANT TO SPEAK FOR BARRY SHELTON BECAUSE I KNOW I CAN. I KNOW THAT HE'S IF HE'S WATCHING, HE'S THINKING. HE IS SO LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING REENGAGED ON TRYING TO BRING THAT EXTRA SHEET ICE. THAT WAS BEFORE YOUR TIME, BUT BOY DID HE DO A LOT OF WORK. BUT I TALKED TO HOCKEY PEOPLE TODAY ABOUT IT. NO, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID. AND THEY WANT IT, BUT THEY DON'T THINK IT'S IN THE SHORT TERM EITHER.

SO NO, I HOPE IT'S SHORTER TERM THAN LONGER TERM AS WELL. BY JUST HAD TO PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR BARRY. HE'LL GET THE REFERENCE. SO. EXPLAIN THE LOGISTICS OF THERE'S 48 TEAMS IN THE WORLD CUP. CORRECT. THERE'S GROUPS OF FOUR. YEAH I GUESS THE WAY IT WAS KIND OF CHARACTERIZED TO ME IS THAT THEY WILL BE IN REGIONS TO PLAY THEIR THEIR GROUP MATCHES THREE REGIONS. AND SO THERE'S LIKELY TO BE EIGHT TEAMS IN THE DFW MARKET. YEAH, I THINK WE DID OUR MATH. I THINK WE WERE UP TO ABOUT ROUGHLY 12 TEAMS IN THE DFW AREA. SO YOU'RE 100% ACCURATE. THERE ARE GOING TO BE THREE REGIONS. THERE'LL BE A CENTRAL REGION, WHICH IS DFW. THERE'S HOUSTON, KANSAS CITY.

YEAH, EXACTLY. SO THE WAY THEY THE WAY THEY'LL DO IT IS FIFA WILL AS THE AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE 2026 PROBABLY TOWARDS THE END OF 25, THE TEAMS THEMSELVES WILL BE QUALIFIED. THEN FIFA WILL THEN RELEASE AS I MEAN, NOVEMBER 21ST I BELIEVE IS THE NEXT BROCHURE OF APPROVED SITES.

ONCE THEY GET QUALIFIED, FIFA THEN CAN THEN START SHOPPING, I.E. THE COUNTRIES CAN START SHOPPING. THOSE PARTICULAR FACILITIES. ONCE THOSE COUNTRIES GET QUALIFIED, THEY GET THE

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SO THE FACT THAT WE ARE A PRIVATE FACILITY, THE FACT THAT TCU IS A STUDENT POPULATION, SAME THING WITH DBU, SAME THING WITH DEW. THOSE ARE ALL THEY'RE ALL SHARING THE SPACE WITH THEIR COLLEGIATE ATHLETES. AND FROM WHAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND, THE NEXT TWO FACILITIES OTHER THAN OURSELVES WILL ALSO BE COLLEGIATE FACILITIES AS WELL. SO THEY'RE SHARING THAT SPACE.

THEY DON'T WANT TO SHARE THAT SPACE. THESE ARE HIGH END ATHLETES. THESE ARE SOME OF THE TOP ATHLETES IN THE WORLD. THEY DON'T WANT TO SHARE SPACE. THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE IN THEIR SPACE AND BE THEMSELVES. SO THE BIG THING IS LIKE AMY ELOQUENTLY PUT, IT'S THE HOME AWAY FROM HOME. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ACHIEVE HERE, IS TO BE ABLE TO SHUT IT DOWN TO WHERE THEY CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE BEING HERE, AND THEY'RE JUST A STONE'S THROW AWAY FROM THEIR HOTEL RESTAURANTS. ENTERTAINMENT WITH TPC TRAILS, ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. THEY WOULD NEED ALL THOSE THINGS. WE ARE CONTINUING TO DEVELOP THE FACILITY OURSELVES. WE JUST INSTALLED A NBA SIZED BASKETBALL COURT INSIDE OF IT. SO THAT WAY THE PLAYERS HAVE THE ABILITY TO CUT LOOSE, SHOOT HOOPS, DO WHATEVER IT MAY BE. WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT GOLF SIMULATORS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ALL THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PLAYERS, ONCE THEY ARRIVE, ARE COMFORTABLE DOING WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY NEED TO DO. BUT I GUESS THAT DECISION IS ULTIMATELY MADE BY THE TEAMS THAT QUALIFY HERE, LOOKING AT THEIR OPTIONS. AND SO THEN THAT GETS PUT FORTH TO US, AND THEN WE GET TO PICK WHICH TEAMS PICK US. OKAY. YEAH. I JUST I STEP UP. SO MY NAME IS LANCE WILSON. SO I'M THE EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF EMPOWER. SO JUST FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT SO I'VE WORKED A LITTLE BIT WITH MIKE OFF OF SOME OF THIS AND TRYING TO FIND SOME DIFFERENT STUDIES THAT SOME OF THE HOST CITIES ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT.

AND THE CLOSEST ONE I COULD FIND THAT IS DALLAS HASN'T DONE ONE YET, BUT ATLANTA DID DO ONE. AND ATLANTA'S GOT, I THINK, ABOUT 70% OF THE GAMES THAT DFW DOES. DFW ARLINGTON WILL HAVE THE MOST GAMES OF ALL THE HOST CITIES. SO ATLANTA WAS PROBABLY THE CLOSEST ONE. AND THEY'RE PROJECTING SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 300 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS. IMPACT TO THE ATLANTA AREA. SO DALLAS WILL BE CONSIDERABLY MORE THAN THAT COST OF LIVING IS MORE HERE. EVERYTHING ELSE IS MORE SO. THIS SCALES OF ECONOMY ARE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, TO THIS FAVOR. THE QUESTION FOR THE CITY IS, I THINK MCKINNEY HAS A TREMENDOUS UPSIDE HERE. WE'VE GOT A PRIVATE FACILITY WHICH IS GOING TO PUT US HIGH UP ON THE RANKS. WE'RE GOING TO GET A MORE FANATICAL FAN FOLLOWING. WHEN YOU GET A HIGHER LEVEL TEAM. BUT HOW BIG OF A PIECE OF PIE DO YOU OF THAT 300 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS? DOES THE CITY OF MCKINNEY WANT TO CONSUME? BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING HOTELS, YOU'RE TALKING RESTAURANTS, TALKING SALES TAX, YOU'RE TALKING EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU GUYS CAN ACTUALLY DO. SO I THINK, MR. COLTER, YOUR YOUR COMMENT WAS VERY VALID. IS, IS THE JUICE WORTH THE SQUEEZE. AND SO OUR MODELING JUST TAKING A LOOK AT HOW WE WOULD USE THIS FACILITY FOR NOT ONLY THE WORLD CUP, BUT IF WE COULD KEEP IT FOR 3 TO 4 YEARS AFTER THAT, WE COULD RECOUP ALL OF OUR DOLLARS. AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO. IT GIVES US A BUNCH OF BRAND AWARENESS ON THAT SIDE. IT GIVES THE CITY A BUNCH OF BRAND AWARENESS. MR. JONES, YOU YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. IT'S THE LARGEST SPORTS EVENT IN THE WHOLE WORLD. AND EVERY TIME IT COMES TO THE UNITED STATES, IT DOUBLES WITH THE PREVIOUS RECORD WAS. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A HUGE CIRCUS SIDESHOW THAT IS GOING TO ATTRACT ALL KINDS OF THINGS. I MEAN, THE SECURITY ALONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS GOING TO BE IMMENSE. THERE'S A CONTRACT FOR THE CITY OF MCKINNEY THAT WILL COME WITH THIS ONCE WE SIGN OUR CONTRACT, YOU GUYS WILL BE DELIVERED A CONTRACT TO EMERGENCY SERVICES, POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THEY WILL PAY THE CITY FOR THAT JUST RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE. AND SO THERE WILL BE A CONTRACT THAT COMES WITH THAT FOR THE HOST CITIES. SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ADD. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE AND AMY CAN ADD OR MIKE AS WELL. THE TIMING ON THIS IS GOING TO BE PRETTY AGGRESSIVE. SO WE'LL HAVE TO GET CRACKING THE QUESTION FOR YOU TODAY IS ARE YOU ARE YOU SUPPORTIVE OF STAFF

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[Consider/Discuss Proposed Amendments to the Zoning Regulations of the Unified Development Code (Chapter 150 of the Code of Ordinances)]

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JENNIFER ARNOLD, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING. I'M ONLY HERE TO INTRODUCE THE ITEM, AND I KNOW IT HAS BEEN A LONG WORK SESSION THUS FAR, SO WE WILL TRY TO MAKE SURE IT'S BRIEF. HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE SOME UPCOMING AMENDMENTS TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND THERE WERE A FEW ITEMS WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE PREVIEWED WITH THE COUNCIL BEFORE BRINGING THEM UP FOR ACTION. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO CAITLIN SHEFFIELD. SHE IS THE CHIEF PLANNER HERE WITH THE CITY AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND SHE'S BEEN LEADING THE CHARGE ON THIS PROJECT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. EVERYONE IS JENNIFER MENTIONED CAITLIN SHEFFIELD, CHIEF PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF MCKINNEY. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. WE INITIALLY ADOPTED THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE IN NOVEMBER OF 2022. WE HAVE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU FOR AMENDMENTS SINCE THEN FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. YEARLY AMENDMENTS, LEGISLATIVE SESSION, AND THEN SOME AMENDMENTS THAT COME ABOUT WITH SIGN REGULATIONS OR BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO MONITOR THE UDC AND ANY PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ON A YEARLY BASIS FOR YOU GUYS.

TWO BUCKETS FOR THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING THIS GO ROUND FINE TUNING, FIXING TYPOS, SPELLING ERRORS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND THE OTHER BUCKET IS MORE PROCEDURAL IMPROVEMENTS, MODIFIED USE REGULATIONS AND ADJUSTMENT TO SOME OF THOSE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT WE WORK WITH ON A DAILY BASIS. THREE MAIN AMENDMENTS THAT WE WANTED TO DISCUSS WITH YOU. THIS AFTERNOON. ONE WOULD BE THE MULTIFAMILY PARKING RATIO.

SECOND IS INTRODUCING A DRONE DELIVERY USE, AND THE THIRD IS THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS FOR NONRESIDENTIAL PARKING AREAS. SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, FOR MULTIFAMILY PARKING. PRIOR TO THE UDC ADOPTION, WE HAD THE CHAPTER 146 AND I'LL HIGHLIGHT THE MAIN ITEM OF THE TOPIC FOR THE MULTIFAMILY PARKING IS THE HOW WE CALCULATE THE SPACES PER UNITS OR SPACES PER BEDROOMS. SO PRIOR IN THE CHAPTER 146 REQUIREMENT, WE CALCULATED THAT PARKING BASED ON ONE SPACE PER DWELLING PLUS A HALF A SPACE PER BEDROOM. SO EVERY TIME A MULTI-FAMILY SITE PLAN CAME IN, WE WENT THROUGH THE MATH WITH THE APPLICANT AND DETERMINED HOW MANY SPACES WOULD BE NEEDED BASED ON THE RATIO OF DIFFERENT UNIT SIZES OR BEDROOM COUNTS FOR THOSE UNITS. WHEN WE ADOPTED THE UDC IN NOVEMBER OF 2022, WE CHANGED HOW WE CALCULATE THOSE PARKING STANDARDS. SO WE DID IT BASED OFF OF TWO SPACES PER UNIT FLAT. SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT INFLUX OF RATIO BASED ON THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS THAT WERE PROPOSED ON THE DEVELOPMENT. DID SOME RESEARCH. PRIMARILY. WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT THE CHAPTER 146 RATIO THAT WE HAD ALLOWED FOR A VARIETY OF RATIOS BASED ON THE TYPES OF UNITS. AS I MENTIONED. BUT WHAT WE WERE FINDING WITH THE TWO SPACES PER UNIT RATIO WAS THAT IT'S REQUIRING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT MORE PARKING FOR THOSE ONE BEDROOM DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE A HIGHER ONE BEDROOM UNIT COUNT. EXCUSE ME, COMPARED THAT TO THE SISTER CITIES. THEY STILL HAVE A PARKING RATIO SIMILAR TO WHAT WE ADOPTED WITH UDC AND SIMILAR TO WHAT WE USED TO REQUIRE WITH THAT. CHAPTER 146. HOWEVER, WE WERE FINDING THAT THEY'RE HAVING THE SAME DILEMMA THAT WE ARE AS A CITY STAFF OF. A LOT OF DEVELOPERS ARE COMING IN ASKING FOR THOSE PARKING MODIFICATIONS. AND WE FOUND THAT A LOT OF THEIR RECENT PROJECTS, AS WELL AS OURS, WERE RANGING FROM A 1 TO 2 SPACES PER UNIT RATIO. WITH THAT BEING SAID, STAFF IS PROPOSING TO MODIFY THAT RATIO AGAIN WITH THE CURRENT RATIO OF THE TWO UNITS PER DWELLING UNIT. WE ARE ASKING TO MODIFY THAT TO 1.75 PER UNIT. WE FOUND THAT THAT WAS MOST COMPATIBLE WITH OUR OLD WAY OF CALCULATING PARKING, AS WELL AS THE NUMBERS THAT WE WERE SEEING IN THOSE SISTER CITY.

RECENT PROJECTS. NEXT ITEM THAT WE'D LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH YOU TONIGHT IS THE DRONE DELIVERY

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ONE TO HIGHLIGHT IS THE LOCATION SETBACK OF AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF 200FT OF RESIDENTIAL USES AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL USER ZONES. EXCUSE ME. AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY SORT OF STORAGE COMPONENT OF THOSE DRONE DELIVERIES, IF THEY'RE NOT STORING THEM INSIDE THE BUILDING, WE HAVE SOME STANDARDS OUTLINED THAT'S BEING PROPOSED AS WELL. FOR THAT SCREENING. SO IF WE HAVE THAT STORAGE COMPONENT OUTSIDE, WE ARE PROPOSING VERY SIMILAR STANDARDS TO OUR OUTDOOR SCREENING REQUIREMENT. IF IT IS GOING TO BE GROUND MOUNTED STORAGE, IF IT'S GOING TO BE ROOF MOUNTED STORAGE ON TOP OF A PRIMARY STRUCTURE, THEN IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO OUR HVAC SCREENING STANDARDS. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, PARKING AREA REQUIREMENTS. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AT LEAST 50% OF THE TERMINUS ISLANDS AT THE END OF A PARKING ROW HAS TO BE LIVING LANDSCAPING. WE ARE PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT THAT IF SOMEONE WANTS TO MODIFY THAT PERCENTAGE OR MODIFY THE ALLOWABLE MATERIALS WITHIN THAT LANDSCAPING ISLAND, THAT THEY COULD GO BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR A DESIGN EXCEPTION. NEXT STEPS. WE PRESENTED THIS TO CITY OR TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WORK SESSION LAST WEEK. WE'RE HERE BEFORE YOU THIS AFTERNOON FOR CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION. WE'RE PROPOSING TO TAKE THE FULL AMENDMENTS DOCUMENTS TO OCTOBER 22ND. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND THEN BACK TO YOU, CITY COUNCIL, ON THE NOVEMBER 19TH MEETING. AND WITH THAT, I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. CAITLIN, I'VE GOT A COUPLE. I'LL START. THERE'S SOME. AND YOU WEREN'T PREPARED FOR THIS, SO YOU MAY NOT HAVE A GOOD ANSWER AND THAT'S JUST FINE. BUT THIS IS A BURR IN MY PROVERBIAL SADDLE. WE HAVE THESE VANTAGE APARTMENTS OVER THERE AT REDBUD AND ROCK HILL, KIND OF OVER THERE BY THE WHATABURGER.

EVERY MORNING I DRIVE BY THEM EVERY MORNING. THERE'S WAY TOO MANY CARS PARKED ON THE STREET.

AND EVERY MORNING I SIT THERE AND WONDER, WHAT WERE WE THINKING WITH RESPECT TO THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS IN THIS PLACE? AND I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER. AND MAYBE IT'S FAIR IF I GET ONE ONE OF THESE DAYS, OR ASK YOU ALL FOR ONE. BUT MOLLY, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS EARLIER BECAUSE THEY GAVE ME THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS, OKAY? BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU THAT I'D LIKE TO EXPAND THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS SIGNIFICANTLY BASED ON MY DAILY EXPERIENCE WITH THAT. BUT THE POINT IS A PRETTY GOOD ONE THAT IF WE'RE SAYING WE HAVE, WE MANDATE TWO SPACES FOR A ONE BEDROOM. I CAN SEE SCENARIOS WHERE YOU HAVE TWO CARS AND ONE BEDROOM, BUT I CAN SEE A BUNCH OF SCENARIOS WHERE YOU DON'T, AND MAYBE THAT IS OVER PARKED.

WHAT I'M NOT CONVINCED IS OVER PARKED IS THE TWO BEDROOMS AND THE THREE BEDROOMS, THOUGH. ARE THERE ANY THOUGHTS WITH RESPECT TO THAT, TO SAYING, YOU KNOW, ONE BEDROOMS, WE CAN DO THE 1.75, BUT FOR TWOS AND THREES WE DO THE TWO THOUGHTS ON THAT. SO WHEN WE ADOPTED. THE TWO PER DWELLING UNIT WITH THE UDC, WE TRIED TO STEP AWAY FROM THE RATIO OF DIFFERENT BEDROOMS AND THE UNIT OR THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS PER BEDROOM UNITS. PROCEDURALLY, WHEN WE HAVE THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTAL, THEY MIGHT HAVE A GRASP OF AN IDEA OF NUMBER OF THAT RATIO, BUT BY THE TIME THEY GET TO THEIR ARCHITECTURAL PLANS, THAT INFLUX OR THAT FLUCTUATION FLUCTUATION OF DIFFERENT UNIT COUNTS OR UNIT TYPES MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, MODIFY THEIR SITE PLANS, MODIFY THEIR ARCHITECTURAL PLANS AT THE END. AND SO THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON WHY WE CHANGED FROM A BEDROOM UNIT STYLE RATIO TO A FLAT RATE PER UNIT. OKAY. AND I RESPECT THAT. I WILL JUST SAY FOR ME, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND I WOULD REQUEST THIS FROM YOU IN AN EMAIL. I'M HAPPY TO DO IT, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE STORY IS WITH OUR ONE TWOS AND THREES IN THAT VANTAGE, WHAT THE PARKING WAS, DID THEY GET ANY VARIANCE? WHAT'S GOING ON CRAIG? DRIVE AND I'LL JUST INDICT EVERYTHING ON CRAIG DRIVE. YOU KNOW BETWEEN MCKINNEY RANCH AND EL DORADO AS BEING RATHER SIMILAR IN TERMS OF THE LIBERAL USE OF STREET PARKING OUT THERE. AND THAT'S NOT SAFE, Y'ALL. THAT THAT'S NOT A SAFE THING WHEN PEOPLE HAVE TO PARK ON THE STREETS, I SEE PEOPLE PUTTING THEIR KIDS IN CAR SEATS. IT'S A MISERABLE, TENSE EXPERIENCE. AND SO IF I HAVE TO MAKE IF I HAVE TO ON THE SIDE OF SOMETHING, I'M GOING TO ON THE SIDE OF OVER PARKING THE APARTMENTS AND NOT ON THE SIDE OF FORCING PEOPLE ONTO THE STREETS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING IN THESE UNITS. SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF

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IT MAY NOT BE, BUT I WILL ALMOST GUARANTEE YOU IT IS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'VE GOT A YOUNG BABY AND YOU'RE HAVING TO NAVIGATE ROCK HILL ROAD AND ME AND MY F-150, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T I HATE IT. FAIR ENOUGH. YOU KNOW, I'VE DRIVEN IT TOO. I'VE SEEN IT. WE CAN DO SOME RESEARCH AND GET IT BACK TO YOU. I JUST WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO A COUPLE OF OTHER. I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I THINK THE CHANCES OF THEM BUILDING TO THE MINIMUM ARE ABOUT 100% ON ANYTHING WE WIND UP DOING. SO ANYWAY. ABSOLUTELY. AND YOU MENTIONED THE RESEARCH THAT WE DID BEHIND SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE RECENTLY WITH THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. WE DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH. JUST TO JUST TO ADD ONE PIECE TO THE ROCK HILL SITUATION, BECAUSE I'VE DRIVEN THAT ROAD A LOT. THERE WAS STREET PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET BEFORE THE PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN A DEVELOPMENT CODE 20 YEARS AGO BECAUSE THE NORTHERN APARTMENTS WERE BUILT IN THE 90S OR SOMETHING. SO LIKE, WE CAN CHASE THIS NUMBER AROUND, BUT IT'S BEEN I DO THINK MR. QUINN IS RIGHT, THAT THERE IS A PREFERENCE COMPONENT ON THAT STREET BECAUSE OF HOW HARD IT IS. IF YOU'VE EVER DRIVEN BACK INTO THAT PLACE, IT'S A DISASTER TO DRIVE THROUGH. IT'S HARD. IT'S GOT FIVE SPEED BUMPS. IT YOU CAN'T TURN AROUND AND GET OUT. YOU HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK AROUND. I HAVE NOT DRIVEN IN THERE. THE NORTHERN ONE IS A MESS AND THERE'S A REASON THEY PARK ON THE STREET. AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S EASIER TO GET YOUR CAR IN AND OUT OF. SO YEAH, I AND THAT THAT'S THANKS FOR THAT EXPLANATION THOUGH I HAVE TO SIDE WITH PATRICK. IT'S HARD FOR ME TO IMAGINE A 1.75 FOR A THREE BEDROOM UNIT. IT'S HARD FOR ME TO IMAGINE THAT THAT'S. BUT AS YOU SAID, IT'S A MINIMUM. BUT BUT YEAH, AND WE DO. WE CAN PROVIDE A FULL SUMMARY FOR THE COUNCIL BECAUSE WE'VE DONE A TREMENDOUS RESEARCH JUST TO GET TO THE 1.75 WHAT WE ARE FINDING IS MORE COMMON THESE DAYS IN APARTMENT DEVELOPMENTS IS MORE ONE BEDROOM UNITS THAN THE TWO AND THREE, WHICH IS WHAT HAS KIND OF GENERATED THE TWO UNIT FLAT OR TWO PARKING SPACES FLAT AS BEING OVER PARKED TO WHAT WE USED TO HAVE. SO WE WILL PROVIDE THAT FULL BREAKDOWN. CAITLIN'S BEEN WORKING. YOU'VE DONE OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE DONE THE RESEARCH AND YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS. WE DO AND WE DID. WE'VE ACTUALLY PICKED OUT A COUPLE OF EXAMPLE DEVELOPMENTS IN MCKINNEY WHERE WE APPLIED THE OLD RATIO. THE NEW RATIO AND THE PROPOSED RATIO OF 1.75. AND KIND OF FELT LIKE YOU ARE CORRECT THAT THE 1.75 IS LESS. BUT ACROSS THE BOARD, KNOWING THAT MOST OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS HIGHER, ONE BEDROOM UNITS KIND OF EVENS OUT WHERE YOUR ONE BEDROOM UNITS ARE OVER PARKING TO SUPPLEMENT YOUR TWO AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS, WHICH ARE LESS OF A PROPORTION OF THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT ANY OTHER WORK ON YOU GUYS, SO FEEL FREE TO IGNORE WHAT I'M SAYING. BUT IF YOU THINK, HEY, HERE'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S PRETTY FULL AND THEY GOT AMPLE PARKING LEFT OVE, I'D LIKE TO KNOW BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO DRIVE IT, TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT FOR SURE. WE'LL MAKE SURE WE PULL TOGETHER THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU ALL BEFORE THIS COMES BACK TO YOU. ALL RIGHT. DIRECTION, THOUGH, FOR TODAY, THIS IS JUST AN INFORMATION SHARING ITEM, SO NO ACTION NEEDED. BUT YOU DON'T KNOW. YOU DON'T NEED ANY DIRECTION OKAY, GREAT. MY ABSTAINING WAS USELESS. ON THE DRONES ARE THERE ARE THERE ANY FAA REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO ADHERE TO OR. I MEAN, SO THE FLYING HIGH ENOUGH, I JUST THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WORKING WITH THE FAA, SPECIFICALLY OUR AIRPORT, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE OUT OF THE FLIGHT PATTERNS. THERE ARE CERTAIN CERTIFICATIONS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET WITH THEM AS WELL. CITY STAFF ISN'T WOULDN'T BE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS, BUT THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. IT IS AMAZING TO ME THAT WE'RE UP HERE HAVING A CONVERSATIONS. WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THIS TEN YEARS AGO? THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT DRONE. YES,

[Consider/Discuss the Negotiation of a Development Agreement and Municipal Management District for the Colmena Ranch Development]

IT'S IN THE FAR NORTHERN PORTION OF OUR NORTHWEST SECTOR. YOU CAN SEE IT UP HERE ON THE MAP. IT'S

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IT'S A GOOD WAY THAT WE CAN GET ANNEXATION, WHICH IS CRITICAL TO US AS A STAFF, US AS A COMMUNITY. AND SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY. DO I LIKE SPECIAL DISTRICTS? NOT NECESSARILY LIKEWISE. BUT WE'RE DEALT THE HAND WE WERE DEALT. YES, SIR. IN 2000, 17, THIS PROPERTY, IN MY OPINION, IS WAS THE LAST BIG TRACT OF LAND THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF MCKINNEY.

YES, SIR. IT HAS A MAJOR ROAD GOING THROUGH IT THAT'S GOING TO BE AN EIGHT LANE THOROUGHFARE. I THINK IT'S PRUDENT IF WE CAN GET IT IN THE CITY TO GO AHEAD AND BRING IT IN BECAUSE WE'RE I MEAN, I WOULD GUESS OVER $1 BILLION WORTH OF TAX BASE SITTING THERE FOR THE CITY. I WILL SAY, THOUGH, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT CAMINO RANCH, BOTH INTERNALLY INSIDE THE CITY AND EXTERNALLY WITH RANDOM FOLKS FOR THE BETTER PART OF TWO DECADES. SO THE FACT THAT WE'RE HERE AGAIN, IT'S NOT DRONE DELIVERY, BUT IT'S ALSO VERY EXCITING. SO THE FACT THAT WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT IT IS A BIG MOMENT. WELL, I YOU'RE JUST LOOKING FOR DIRECTION. YES, SIR. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A CHOICE BUT TO ENGAGE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND TRY TO FIND A WIN WIN TO BRING THEM INTO THE CITY. SO I'M A YE. FULL STEAM AHEAD, MY GOOD MAN. I'M IN. I HAVE CONSENSUS, THANK

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